please help

Discussion in 'General Scooter Discussion' started by Donna, Dec 7, 2013.

  1. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

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    OK, so everything appears to be plugged in correctly. Pull the left hand brake lever and check that a little plastic pin pops out into the gap left as the lever opens please. Also, turn the ignition on and check to see if the horn works.

    This is an Elyseo brake lever, but it shows where the switch is located.

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  2. Donna

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    horn doesnt work, cant see a little grey thing like the one in the pic got some more pics to upload
     

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  3. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

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    That's OK Donna, I can see them both in place, just behind the brake cables in your photos. In your second photo above, the first thin black cable next to the lever housing attaches to the switch and that's just behind the cable.

    No horn is a big clue. I bet the fuse has blown. Under the mat that covers the footplate is a cover held on by a screw. Remove the screw and you have access to the battery. On the red cable from the battery will either be a little connector that has a car-type spade fuse plugged into it, or it will have a tubular plastic cover that you have to open to expose the glass fuse.

    Unplug or remove the fuse and check to see if it's blown. If it's a spade type, the wavy bit in the middle will be burned away like this.
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    The glass fuse looks like this, except that the wire inside yours may be missing or burned in half.
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    If it's burned out, it needs to be replaced. the fuse will be marked with it's rating and replace it with one with the exact same rating.
     
  4. Donna

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    great thanks, will have a look now and let you know
     
  5. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

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    Most of all, don't panic. Every 'No' is one step closer to a 'Yes' when it comes to fixing bikes.

    It's not terminally broken, it's just temporarily incapacitated in the electrical department and we can fix that.
     
  6. Donna

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    thanks Merlin, really appreciate your help, ive had a look and i cant find any fuse at all, not the long one that looks like a plug fuse or the one that looks like a car fuse
     
  7. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

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  8. Donna

    Donna New Member

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    i took the battery out to have a better look
     

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  9. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

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    Aha! The glass fuse is inside that plastic cover that's between your fingers on the red wire. The cover wraps around the fuse and if you look carefully at it, you can see the metal ends of the fuse inside it.
     
  10. Donna

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    i'll have a look at it now, 2 ticks
     
  11. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

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    It should have a little clip that latches it closed. It clicks shut.
     
  12. Donna

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    got it open, it looks fine but one side of the connection was lose and looked like it wasnt connected properly, but ive lost one of the bolts that hold the wires for the battery down :/ so in the middle of finding it as it fell underneath the plastic battery bay, gonna hook the battery back up and see if it works now
     
  13. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

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    OK, 'Keep Calm and Find Bolts'... :)
     
  14. Donna

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    haha all calm, got bolts, put all together again, and wouldnt start, kicked started it and horn, indicators and brake lights still not working :(
     
  15. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

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    (Consults the manual)

    OK, it must be one of two things and these are all it can be.

    Please check the 10A fuse to see if the wire inside is intact. to quote the manual...

    This sounds like what you have. the only other thing it could be is to check behind your ignition switch, it will have a rubber cover over the wires. Check that they are all attached to the ignition switch terminals, especially the thick red ones that carry 12v from the battery.

    Electricity flows like water, so you have to follow it from the battery, to the ignition switch and check that the red wires going in and out are attached. Power or fuse, it's one or the other.

    The engine runs off it's own magneto so that's why the engine still works.
     
  16. Donna

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    could it be the battery? or the altenator that isn't charging the battery properly? i'll check the connections now
     
  17. Merlin

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    it could be a knackered battery, but if it was working before the cable was replaced it's unlikely.
     
  18. Donna

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    yeah it was working but it was sat for almost a month in my mates garden, being rained on and stuff and i only bought it a month or so before that so no idea when the battery was last replaced
     
  19. Merlin

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    Have you got a battery charger at all? If it's been out in the depth of winter the battery could be as flat as a witch's t*t. If it's that flat, it needs a couple of hours of charging.

    I have a spare battery for my TKR here, that you could maybe try as an emergency measure just to see if that's the problem.

    Otherwise it needs a good run out to put some charge into the battery but as you have no indicators that may be tricky. 12v car battery chargers can overcharge a bike battery so I wouldn't recommend using one.

    If you have a friendly neighbour with a car and some jump leads, you could maybe connect your battery to the car's one for a while, to transfer some charge and then try it.

    If not, PM me with some contact details and I'll see if I can pop over with my spare battery. Are you at work during the day, as I am at the Doctor's in the morning then I'm free for the rest of the day.
     
  20. Donna

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    i have only just moved here so dont know the neighbours, im not in work til sat, i do actually still use it as work is just one straight road and i work long hours so always leave at sparrows fart with hardly any traffic and same at night, otherwise i wouldnt risk it so it gets a good run every morning and evening as takes me a good 30 mins to get to work.
     

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