Want a new bike/scooter but what ?

So i been chugging around on a sym jet basix/eurox chopup ( eurox fitted with basix panels), its been derestricted done god knows how many miles ( 4 mot's and all have differeing miles) bikes had a full top end fitted and a leo vince TT but lets be fair and honest .........

Its a pain in the arse end, it likes to play then act up its kinda swift but so is your granny running to the loo, and it drinks fuel like some drunk on a friday night binge fest, i mean it drinks fuel very quick and its just running so rich i am sure when you thottle up the exhuast sound says bling bling , not ring ting ting like a twostroker should. good points its kinda light to throw around its dirt cheap on insurance at £100 quid a year and its got a kinda like tool kit with some type of helmet storage for a kiddies fireman sam hat ( yeah aint no full face getting parked in there without melting or cutting the top off )
So its stood me into £220 for the purchase, i have replaced front pads - mirrors - sparky - removed the alloy tape wrap from end can, rubbed down the front instrement panel so one can see speed/fuel and other needed icons.

i owned a speedfight 2 50cc LC a long while back when they came out and it pushed 62kmh max derestricted via shop, so im not into another pug, but i want something thats parts ready and popular but not so popular that every hoon in town will be trying to steal it from my yard.

Now i dont mind the Aerox but eveyone has them and i would like a 100cc - 125cc but they must be twostrokers , i cant be living with a thumper 4t. im short like so short i can sit at your pond with a rod and reel and not look outta place with the other gnomes , so CBR's YZR's and the likes all went outta the window, i dont like gears ( just more stuff to work) and i already looked at groms but 1.8k is just way beyond my means. i am in hope i could pass the sym on for around £250 - £300 when it gets a new mot in jan next year and will have around a max 400-550 to spend.

What are your thoughts, must be small and have balls but not a 4t and no gears ie no PX125 vespa

 

not many 2 strokes to pick from, I had a zip some time ago did 45mph, but I have not seen one for ages

 

Been trawling gumtree for a while, but nothing interesting comes up , just dont want to be forced into bore kitting the 50cc. i want to be fully legal and the hassle i have to go through to make a 70cc legal is just a killer, i have the chance to get a sym jet 100cc motor, but its from a 2006 bike and its only £60 ( no carb - sidecase - inlet manifold - exhaust ) but i need the whole wiring loom to go with it, then the price to get it installed in bike is huge as i am unable to fit it myself. and also no warenty on the motor its sold as seen so a huge risk for me.

Speedy and prillys up this way cost you an arm and leg to fix as they are popular scoots, same with the aerox to and the insurance goes up also, same with vespas they to cost a fortune in repair work but the same problem only small lumps are 2t the rest are all 4t autos or 2t geared.

 

Runner SP125 maybe?
If you can find one..................without a rotted through silent block mounting.

 

well i found these

SR50 but its owned by a kiddie so you know its been ragged to hell and back, nodoubt sold because its not running right no more or has problems.

Aerox 50-70's problem is the 70cc's are all registered as 50cc's still so illegal on road and a risk to my licence, all owned by young kiddies to so agin ragged to hell and back, the 70's nodoubt been rode to death at max throttle 24/7 and will have fork seal problems ( kids like wheelies lol)

speedfight 2 but i already owned one and it cost me a fortune just for replacement panels let alone spares my mech will just see me dressed as a large dollar sign in his eyes ( same goes for the yam/prillys)

suzuki AN125 yeah its a fourstroke tortoise but its only £375 and trade but comes with a " rides well but has rattle'ing variator rollers" in other words the cranks gone or the bearings.

Nobody will stick my sym on a dyno road so i can get a diagnostic read out when its flat out wide open ( temp - air/fuel - co2 etc etc, not bothered about bhp or torque ) , my mech is the only fella that will touch it as he is a sym dealer ( yep im a money cow).


So what do i need to look for in a ragged out Aerox / NRG/SR 50 , what are the signs i really need to look for ( other than have them ride bike past me flat out wide open a good few times) . my last stop is a trader up this way that deals in aerox's but he has price tags of £675 , mind you bikes are mint and original panels unpainted or tainted but only a month warenty on motor and electrics.

 

You've probably missed the boat when it comes to 2t 125cc scooters, Gilera runners, Piaggio typhoons are all old with the youngest at 13 years old! I have typhoons and I'm finding spares hard to find, a lot of parts are obsolete and difficult to find. Maybe you need to look at a 4t ? Kymco are very good as are SYM. As you say, most 50's have been thrashed to death.

 

True Marsh, i grew up with 2strokes , you could tinker with them and they went a lot quicker, plus when you blew out a piston its was a simple affiar of dropping the old barrel and piston and sliding a new one on and away you go, and that powerband where that power kicks in and wayhey your off. like the sym now its slow as hell upto a certain point then it unleashes and flys off,

but coming to a fourstroke your fairly stuffed, yep plenty of torque but its a tortoise to the top end, swapping a piston and barrel is more than an chore what with valves etc etc, theres so much more that goes wrong. in my heart i know i would get a 125cc fourstroke ride it for a couple weeks then give up put my hat up flog the scoot and give up the road, i had to take my cbt on a 50cc fourstroke and i hated everything about it and youtube never helped , i tubed a lot of 125cc fourstroke scoots and was let down by the slowness and hassle in repair
given the fact they are HUGE and i am only 5ft.

going to pop to the local Vosa test center and see if i can get info on what is needed for a legal capacity upgrade to a 50cc. i think thats my only other option now.

 

yes i am torn between my love of twostrokes but the need for something thats not going to cost me arms and legs.

its the worry of all those extras a fourstoke has, valves valve seat covers etc etc, timing chain yadda yadda, just got back from a quick test ride after draining carb bowl, very minimal crud in the drained fuel, and a mile down the road i broke down again, worse part broke down with a large jam sandwich up my tail end, again not even a min pulled over and the bike fires up and runs like nothing happened. its really getting to me now.

spent the last hour trawling FB-Gumtree-thebay for something in my area at a price i can afford and nothing, its all old but with large price tags or maxi scooters that i would never be able to lift up if i dropped it.
I got my sym in march late, rode till start of may, found out i was licence revoked due to ID theft, waited 2 months for a new licence to come back and have had like 3 months riding this scoot in those three months i have put 2000km on the clock.

and my mech just says " oh we sell 125cc scooters, you get this that and its brand new, and we do finance to" but its a heartache when you cannot afford finance, but ask if they have any secondhand bikes its oh no we dont have them. yet round the back in the mot bay are around 15-20 bikes all in semi states of repair from large cc down to little 50cc, yet they dont sell secondhand bikes lol.

i am just stuck , there is nothing 125'ish that i even like or suitable prices even as fourstrokes.

 

yes maybe i need to find a fourstroke to try out just not a 50cc, i took cbt on a 50cc fourstroke and i hated the thing was gutless and being told to go faster by the tutor when you cranking that throttle way past its limit was annoying, so much so i was swearing that i couldnt go no *censored faster* in the coms unit.

i like those vespas but they just hold the price to much and maxi's are well out of my limit (weight wise and size wise )

 

more on the list heres what i looked at as a upgrade.

sym symply 2 125cc, been said they a good little fourstroke one of the bike mechs rides one for over two years and never had a problem.
Honda dylan 125cc , i cant find much on these i guess its ok as it is a honda and being fourstroke cheaper on the gas burning side of things.
speedfight 100cc , yep i looked at a couple i know its twostroke but they can be tinkered with to get that little extra or i can fit a 125cc bore to it.

GROM yeah i keep going to look at groms i dont know why its just they are so small and ideal for someone as short as me, but its those pesky gears ( maybe a quickshifter could help lol )

 

long as i can plug 60mph on the main A roads and carriges i would be fine , better to be around the same speed as the traffic than a 1/3rd of the speed less space for them tail ending you.

yep this dylan is £450 but i think i can get it lower its a 2005 model but a long way away in stamford london, thats a hell of a ride back trying to keep away from the motorways.

also seen a pes or are they a fez again still high up in price but a bit closer to home not by much though.
also seen a burgman to but i am sure they fall into the maxi scooter range so are going to be some what HUGE and HEAVY lol.

I have to keep weight as low as possible ( not allowed to lift no more than 10kg) , dont want to drop a scoot then find its impossible for me to haul it back up / or suffer another heart attack from being an idiot and overdoing myself. reason why i have to get the bike most sorted in shop , as a younger me we used to huff rxs 100cc engines into frames like they were a bag of spuds.
was thinking about a little honda 90 cub but they hold money to well these days and the simple step through gearings is a lot more easy , ( no leaver clutch its built into the gearshift)

 

What about those honda innova 125cc ( the new shape honda cub) scooter like shape but semi auto. never really thought about HP wise i always thought if its 125cc its gonna be around 14hp anyways or close to