i have read up on this in the threads on here and have been told that they are a weakness so, i removed mine after it stuck and the twist grip to junction box is holding now by 3 strands right at the junction pulley, it kinda looks as if someone has cut the cable?? is this where they go??? and if so why??? i have run out of reasons why here and believe me...... i have seen some snapped cables in my time. sorry to touch on an old subject but im just curious :bye: