tuning help!!!

Discussion in 'General Tuning' started by ashleyh363, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. ashleyh363

    ashleyh363 Member

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  2. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

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    It will accelerate a little quicker with the new variator, that's all. Unless you change the exhaust to a sports one and re-jet the carburettor to match the new exhaust, then it's not going to go much quicker, as your standard exhaust is restricted in some way, either via a resonance tube or a welded washer in the end.

    If you are 16 and on a moped CBT licence, de-restricting the bike will invalidate your insurance and if the Dibble/Plod/Filth/Babylon/Rozzers (delete as applicable) pull you over, in some areas, scooters that have been modded are being confiscated by the Police and crushed. If your bike can exceed the maximum allowed for the classification as a moped, it's no longer a moped, it's a motorcycle as far as DVLA and the Police are concerned.
     
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  3. ashleyh363

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    I'm 18 lol
     
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  4. Mark Emerson Trentham

    Mark Emerson Trentham Well Known Member. Staff Member

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    I'm 40+,
    If I had a moped insured as standard-
    and de-restricted it WITHOUT telling my insurers..
    i'd get busted,period.!.,
    have a full licence too.
     
  5. turbovetto

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    I think it's shocking. For a start a slow ped is more of a danger to the person riding it than anything else. And a great annoyance to other road users.
    Secondly, making things go faster is a tradition in the UK. Since the start of the 20th century, blokes in England have been tinkering in their sheds making things go faster. It's spawned a whole industry and is one of the reasons why motor racing is dominated by Brits.
    To suddenly turn around and start crushing peoples pride & joy is a disgrace.
     
  6. Mark Emerson Trentham

    Mark Emerson Trentham Well Known Member. Staff Member

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    That's the thing though,isn't it.?.,
    how do you strike a wholehearted agreement-
    T/O, yet advise someone on taking steps which could lead to a dodgy path........ .
     
  7. turbovetto

    turbovetto Well-Known Member

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    'discuss'.......:rolleyes:
     
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  8. Merlin

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    All that you can do is provide balanced advice and hope that the person asking for the advice takes what you have said to heart. You can't make someone follow your advice, you can only show them the path and point out the pitfalls; if that person doesn't follow your advice and comes unstuck, then it's their fault, not yours.

    I'm 51 and declared all the mods on my TKR to the insurance - if you don't and you have an accident, they will hang you out to dry and you'll have trouble getting insured next time around by anyone, because you told them some porkies about your machine.

    This is why they ask the specific question "Has the vehicle been modified in any way?" If you don't tell them, it's your own fault. I had this argument years ago about a tow bar on a car I had , as I argued that the tow bar wasn't standard equipment and if it wasn't on the policy, then it wasn't covered. Insurance companies will try to find any way to weasel out of paying up, so don't be anything less than totally honest with them.

    @ Ashley363 (and any other teenagers that are having ideas about tuning their scooters).

    "Lol" won't help you when the insurance won't pay out, as a result of an accident that is your fault. You could end up with a very big bill that you have to pay yourself as your insurance will be void and then there's the Police who may bust you for riding a bike that you aren't licenced to ride.
     
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  9. GazD

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    ashley you need to buy a 70cc kit and race crank

    then a bigger carb,sponge filter,intake and a set of jets

    then a suitable race exhaust for your needs

    then a race variator,belt,clutch and gear kit

    then go buy some orange sherbert ice cream and laugh at your mates doing 36mph with there heads down
     
  10. turbovetto

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    Don't need a 70 cc kit to feel the benefit of an overrange pack with a gear up kit. Any decent 50 cc kit will perform a million times better with the transmission sorted. Then you are ready to get the kit anyway.
    On the other hand - you can't get a high end 70 cc kit and have it work well without dealing with the transmission first.
    So I'd say the priorities are the other way around.
    But I agree about the orange sherbert ice cream.
     
  11. Merlin

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    ... just before you get stopped for doing 45 in a 30 zone and they start crawling all over your bike, for an undeclared engine size change and other modifications that your insurance company don't know about. Who would be laughing at who then?

    I presume that if you fitted a 70cc kit, you'd tell DVLA all about it, wouldn't you, Ashley363?

    Didn't think so..
     
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    of course he needs a 70cc kit and race crank,,,50cc scoots are known to rust real bad so you got to fit a 70cc kit to sort the problem out

    come on vetto everyone knows that:cool:
     
  13. Mark Emerson Trentham

    Mark Emerson Trentham Well Known Member. Staff Member

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    Any thoughts about getting a full licence-
    an doing your tune up legally.?.........
     
  14. Merlin

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    There should be a poll on here to see how honest a lot of these tune-up teens are, to see if they actually declare any of these tuning mods. Maybe that's the reason the Police have started testing them on rolling roads and crushing bikes that aren't legal.
     
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    why would he need a full license for a 70cc
     
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  16. Merlin

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    He'd need a minimum of a provisional licence, a CBT test and L plates for a 70cc anyway, just like a 125.
     
  17. turbovetto

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    Nah. They are protecting us from ourselves. A worthy cause. If only they could protect us from Chealsea Tractors with the driver on the phone, doing her makeup etc.
     
  18. GazD

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    sorry lads but whats having a full license or provisional license got to do with variators
     
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  19. Merlin

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    It won't end there in his quest for speed though, will it? You've basically given him a shopping list, so let's be honest about what's going to happen, eh? Some of us aren't as naïve as you think.
     
  20. GazD

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    naive,,,nah mate just a little boring on the subject of insurance in a tuning thread,,,again

    the lads 18 year old,,,,,tuning scooters is ok
     
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