Stub matching

Discussion in 'Scooter Tuning' started by italjohn, Dec 25, 2007.

  1. italjohn

    italjohn Member

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    Hello to you all. I just want to show you some pictures of my stubmatching on my Runner 172.
    Original Malossi 172, and stainless stub from Scooter-Center.
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    And some porting of the cylinder. The casting must be opened equaly.
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  2. capri dave

    capri dave Active Member

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    nice one john...i guess the engine is up and running by now.

    I remember when you started building it up on gilera runner.net :D

    Hows she go??? any recent pics or vids john :D
     
  3. italjohn

    italjohn Member

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    Hello Dave.

    Yes she has been running, but I have not got the carb set up correct yet, so I`m still working on this. Now its cold here in Norway, so I have put her on hold for now.
     
  4. capri dave

    capri dave Active Member

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    yeah its pretty cold here now john...i cant wait for the weather to start warming up in a couple of months....so much to do ;)
     
  5. hotwot

    hotwot New Member

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    What advantages is there to opening up the exhaust port?
    Wont you have to open up other area's to match?
    Why did you chamfer the edges of the cooling channels?
     
  6. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn Administrator Staff Member

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    bigger port means more power but less responce.. also matched pipe works best with least wasted air..

    what cooling channels? the part he ground is a transfer port feed..
     
  7. hotwot

    hotwot New Member

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    lol :emb: sorry..i see now
    I ask so many questions...they call me Mr q at work...
     
  8. stevegti2

    stevegti2 Member

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    i have had a stub for my 59 once that matched up perfect and others that havehad varying lips now thats quality control


    steve
     
  9. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn Administrator Staff Member

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    not the stubs.. its the barrels ;) 59 stub only matches in the tiny unmodded size it is anyway... pants tbh
     
  10. stevegti2

    stevegti2 Member

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    so the standard exhaust ports are too small on the 172 you say ok

    steve
     
  11. italjohn

    italjohn Member

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    If you use the stock exhaust, everything is ok, as this one has a narrower outlet that matches the small exhaust on the cylinder.
    But I did use the stainless stub from SC, and this have a much bigger opening, as you can see on the pictures.

    Original
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    Tuning with no restrictions
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  12. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn Administrator Staff Member

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    those need alot of weld floated in them tho then ground back as its a rounded edge not a sharp flat cut.. will never match a rounded edge hence you have to grind them too big for any kind of power under full revs.
     
  13. stevegti2

    stevegti2 Member

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    ah i see the object on the standard pipe is to round that flat lip good job i enjoy welding

    steve
     

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