Stage6 CNC Drive Face

Discussion in 'General Tuning' started by TwostrokeFTW, Feb 16, 2013.

  1. TwostrokeFTW

    TwostrokeFTW Member

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  2. wedgie

    wedgie Member

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    Usually a buzz gun (impact wrench) If its for piggy or aerox engines then they sell a tightening tool that goes on the kickstart bit
     
  3. TwostrokeFTW

    TwostrokeFTW Member

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    o rite i dont have a buzz gun lol dam its for a speedfight
     
  4. MARSH

    MARSH Whooooo!

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    Never but never use a "buzz gun" to tighten the variator nut up, do it properly with a torque wrench. Only un-do with the rattle gun.
     
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  5. TwostrokeFTW

    TwostrokeFTW Member

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    ok i dont see how you would tighten wive a Stage6 CNC drive face? when the locking tool cant lock it :confused:
     
  6. MARSH

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    In that case you make a locking tool or find a way to lock it or lock the variator, using a rattle gun to tighten it will overtighten and stretch the thread or shear it off. The nut only need's around 45Nm torque, a rattle gun will go over 100Nm so you'd be only guessing how tight it is.
     
  7. Mickey

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    i use a electric rattle gun, i cant remember the proper name, works fine tightening and talking it off, no problems at all
     
  8. phil.s

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    never tried it myself but ive heard of peaple putting a spanner on the other side of the crank and getting someone to hold it to tighten or lossen the variator side you can also get a tool you screw into the spark plug hole you turn the variator till the piston is at the top and locks against it
     
  9. phil.s

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    also if your gonna get a a lighter drive face you might aswell do it propper and get a decent crank that can take the faster higher revs and get onto SRT for a lighter flywheel for the other side of the crank. or your just gonna trash the crank you have fitted now
     
  10. Jonnymarrw00t

    Jonnymarrw00t Moderator Staff Member

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    I use a impact gun to tighten mine up....
     
  11. MARSH

    MARSH Whooooo!

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    I think you need to invest in a torque wrench, every time you tighten it, it stretches the thread slightly. Torquing it up each time means it's the same every time!
     
  12. Jonnymarrw00t

    Jonnymarrw00t Moderator Staff Member

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    I own a torque wrench, but when I tighten'd it up too the correct Nm the nut come off when I road the bike, My impact gun is 240v, however a one second click is 54nm which is perfect.
     
  13. andy-pp

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    loctite!!! vital on crank threads- a while back Piaggio put in a dealer bulletin something to the effect that they would decline any warranty claims relating to front pulleys if it was found that loctite had not been used.

    the 2-stroke mopeds are fine to use a piston stopper for crank nut tightening where the front pulley can't be locked- 4-strokes are iffy because the stopper goes in at an angle (maybe 45 deg) to the piston and can potentially cause damage but 2-stroke stoppers are directly perpendicular to the piston so should be fine-
    an impact driver is very high risk for tightening crank nuts unless you have a really expensive one where you can accurately set the torque, you can easily strip a crank nut otherwise by overtightening it- usually the nut thread will strip before the crank is damaged *if you are lucky* but don't count on it!!
     
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  14. Jonnymarrw00t

    Jonnymarrw00t Moderator Staff Member

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    Andy, rememeber my zip when it came in and you couldn't get the crank nut off cause it was done up so tight, that was a windy gun.
     
  15. andy-pp

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    i think from memory someone had done it up with impact drive and damaged the thread - so when you went to undo it, it just span and had to be cut off? can't remember- doing them up with an impact driver doesn't normally end well!
     
  16. Jonnymarrw00t

    Jonnymarrw00t Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm not sure, the crank was fine though as I'm still using it too this day, good old Pm cranks
     
  17. scubabiker

    scubabiker NITROJUNKIE

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    we always use the piston stopper tool at work, we have an expensive rattle gun but never use it to tighten up crank bolts or the sort.
     

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