Scooter No Longer Rideable Problems :(

Discussion in 'The Workshop' started by lipsmoker, Nov 27, 2010.

  1. lipsmoker

    lipsmoker Member

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    Okay so my scooter has never broke down and ive had it for 6 months its a yamaha neos 2001 50cc air cooled

    Anyway last week I rode it to college it was fine as usual and after college it started and bogged out and wouldst start for the life of it had to get picked up

    The day after that me and my step dad took out the spark plug and cleaned it because it was quite wet and tested for a spark it had a good one then put it back in and it run fine

    The day after it worked for college but when i rode into town it wouldn't start it just started the revs were fluctuating from what sounded like 2-5000 rpm and it cut out

    Now it starts ticks over at the right rpm but as soon as you give it revs its starts spluttering all over the place i had to ride home from town at about 7mph, Its not really reacting to choke im aware choke could be stuck on

    Ive never had a Problem with this ped Its allmost as if the problems have happened since i refueled at tescos the day before the problems my step dad said you can get a bad batch of fuel if the tanks are low?

    Im back at college on wednesday and could use some help
    Otherwise im back on the bus

    Cheers

    Now its got

    A Good Spark
    Fuel Going into the Carb
    Ive messed with fuel/air ratio doesn't help
     
  2. capri dave

    capri dave Active Member

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    if you suspect the fuel, why not drain the fuel tank and try some fresh...
     
  3. BossMan172

    BossMan172 Member

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    ive had similar problems before turned out to be the reeds.
    clean carb/air filter?
    Fresh spark plug
     
  4. lipsmoker

    lipsmoker Member

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    Okay My Parents are away so im going to start stripping the bike tomorrow

    its naked as it stands faring wise
    Going to Go to Halfords tomorrow

    New Spark Plug
    Fresh Fuel
    Clean carb Blow out jets etc

    Everything On the Transmission Side looks And works how it should

    cheers for replys
     
  5. BossMan172

    BossMan172 Member

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    funny how u missed out reeds the most probable cause lol
     
  6. lipsmoker

    lipsmoker Member

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    I dont even Know Where they are or what to look for lol
    :confused:

    Can you shed some light for me?
     
  7. capri dave

    capri dave Active Member

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    The reeds sit under the inlet manifold, unscrew the manifold and the reed block pulls out.

    The reeds should be intact no chips splits or fraying, hold the block up to light and look through it, you shouldnt see any light leaking past the reeds...
     
  8. lipsmoker

    lipsmoker Member

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    I appreciate the help :)
     
  9. lipsmoker

    lipsmoker Member

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    Hey guys Returning with news

    Ive stripped it totally took carb off drained fuel Plug out all the usual

    Got to the reed block cant see any light at all through it but when i turn the engine over with the block off What Looks like Dust comes through Or should i say Smoke it comes through with the reedblock on aswell? not as much but you can see smoke coming back up through the inlet manifold when im kicking it (no plug or anything)

    Fuel Looked clean but going to get some more anyway and a new plug just incase you never know


    Anyone shed some light on the Reedblock problem?
     
  10. lipsmoker

    lipsmoker Member

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    I would also Like to add that when i took the fuel line off i put a clamp on it when i went to empty fuel out a little bit came out and it stopped there was half a tank in i was like...

    So i had to kick it over to drain the tank one kick was a shoot of fuel so it took about 500 kicks just to empty it lol, I know they work on vacuumes etc but is this right?
     
  11. capri dave

    capri dave Active Member

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    you did actually take the reed block out of the engine, and look through it holding it to the light up above didnt you ?
     
  12. lipsmoker

    lipsmoker Member

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    Yeah took it outside And looked at the sun through it, Nothing but pitch black

    Ive just put a brand new spark plug in and its still doing it hmmm
    Video soon
     
  13. capri dave

    capri dave Active Member

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    have you checked that the fuel tap is operating properly, and fuel is reaching the float bowl...

    have you checked that the float needle is moving up and down freely is connected to the float, and the float is hinged properly with the float pin and also the float is not punctured....and the jets are free of obstruction.

    have you checked the float bowl is seated properly and not leaking.

    have you checked theres no air leaks on the inlet manifold, and that the throttle is connected to the throttle slide...have you checked the air filter is not blocked or excessively dirty or wet.

    have you checked that theres a good reliable spark, and that the engine isnt flooded with fuel and theres plenty of compression.....
     
  14. lipsmoker

    lipsmoker Member

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    Ive checked everything you said, everything is fine, the only thing possible things next is a cdi problem or cracked cases
     
  15. lipsmoker

    lipsmoker Member

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    Aha cracked it, Was a build up of issues

    fuel had water in it thats why it wouldnt start
    And the Bogging problem isnt carb related as we put a spark tester on the ht lead while the plugs in to test the spark while its running and when the bike boggs the spark light dies Hence its a Ignition related problem not carb related, at least the carb got a well needed clean anyway, Im pretty sure its the ht lead breaking down or the coil, ill return with info tomorrow once i fit a new ht lead :)

    thanks
     
  16. ZipKid94

    ZipKid94 New Member

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    How did it go think i got a similar problem with my zip :(
     

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