alrite folks im robert some of you may know me of gilerarunner.net im from brum i ride a gilera runner sp 50 2005 model (the last of the old shape) ive got a gilera dna 50 gp experiance motor in 17.5mm carb........ my endy pipe 5.5g rollers and mainly cosmetic tweaks i'll add some images as soon as i find out how to ive been told by capri dave your all a usefull bunch of people so i look forward to hearing what you have to say :drool: