Post Delivery Inspection (PDI) link

Discussion in 'The Workshop' started by Rockin'EZ, Mar 31, 2014.

  1. Rockin'EZ

    Rockin'EZ Active Member

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    http://x1scooters.com/pdi.html

    I am not sure if you have seen this post. It is basically what you need to do to get a China scoot running after it is delivered in a crate.

    Hope this helps anyone getting a new China scoot.
     
  2. scubabiker

    scubabiker NITROJUNKIE

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    thats not a good guide, you need to keep the original oil in the bike as its a special oil for running in the motor.
    as a rule a pdi goes something like this:
    remove from crate
    attach front wheel (not many bikes have this now)
    remove bike from pallet
    fill battery
    charge battery
    check tyre pressures and brakes
    check motor oil and other fluids
    attach the mirrors
    fill with fuel
    attach battery
    turn on and off 3 times
    start it up and let it run for a bit (10mins idle on the new 4t minerelli engine)
    check headlight aim and all controls work
    check the lights all work
    ride it
    after its warm you may need to adjust idle speed
    and on the Chinese carburettored engines you usually need to turn the mixture screw a little bit
    they nearly always run lumpy from new as the factory have fuel in it and its a bit crappy (full of additives to protect the tank)
     
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  3. scubabiker

    scubabiker NITROJUNKIE

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    I did 3 PDIs last week so I know what im doing!
     
  4. Rockin'EZ

    Rockin'EZ Active Member

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    It works, and eliminates a lot of future issues.
    I suspect your 3 PDIs were for scooters for sale.

    No the oil is not special oil, it is cheap Chinese oil for shipping. Break in oil contains zinc and is not necessary for a GY6 unless you are building a racing cart. The stuff it ships with is low viscosity Chinese junk oil to prevent rust only. The mfg recommends you change out all fluids. You can look up lubricants online.

    From the two sets of PDI instructions, I would select ScootDawgs if it were my bike.
    I would never run any Chinese shipping oil or fluid in my machine, but that is a personal choice.

    The cheap vacuum & fuel lines will leak and cause problems in less than a year. Why not change them right away and eliminate those problems?

    The cheap Chinese fuel filter causes many problems. It costs very little to eliminate this point of failure. You will do it now, or do it later.

    The spark plug it ships with is going to cause problems in the first 1000 miles. Change it out while you have the skins off.

    While you are at it adjust the valves, it takes 10 minutes and makes a world of difference.

    I don't understand your attitude. Don't you want to provide a quality product, that will last?
     
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  5. scubabiker

    scubabiker NITROJUNKIE

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    Never had an issues with our bikes, although we have had a few vaccum lines split, I think the chinese have upped their game a little bit over the past few years, we dont sell the shit brands tho, only stuff like sym, honda, peugeot and suzuki
     
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  6. MARSH

    MARSH Whooooo!

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    Removing brake caliper bolts/pins, exhaust bolts/nuts and copper slipping them help's a lot for future maintenance. Also change the crap metal type spark plug cap for a NGK cap.
     
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  7. Rockin'EZ

    Rockin'EZ Active Member

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    The PDI was only for China Scoots. The brands you handle have already upgraded the components listed.
    The cheap a$$ China scoots on the other hand still need these issues resolved.

    The proper PDI, replacing all the junk parts, costs us $20 or less U.S.
    I personally add $30 U.S. for a new Japanese carb with new jets for my friends.

    This is just a personal preference. It saves time stuck on the side of the road later.
     
  8. Rockin'EZ

    Rockin'EZ Active Member

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    Can you guys in the UK get the mainland China scoots for 600 pounds or less, delivered in a crate? We may be talking about different machines. We can import almost anything from China. I don't know about your import laws.
    We can order some cheap Chinese stuff in the U. S.
     
  9. scubabiker

    scubabiker NITROJUNKIE

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    i live in norway and they are strict about it here, but i know you can buy crated bikes in the uk. they wont let me have my camaro on the road here as its not "godkjent" same goes for loads of bikes here, its daft sometimes, like you cant get a trials bike on the road, but you can get a peugeot vclic no problems
     
  10. Rockin'EZ

    Rockin'EZ Active Member

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    The Chinese stuff like scooters can be fun, if you are a mechanic.
    Somehow China earned "most favored nation" trading status with the U.S.
    This makes it as easy to import from China as it is from Canada, which has the same trading status, right next door.

    Since we can order from any supplier (depending on state emissions laws), we end up with some real cheap scoots over here.
    I have seen 150cc scoots delivered to your door for less than $700 U.S. It was half junk, but it was also cheap to upgrade. We had all the junk replaced and it was running in a few hours. The parts were less than $50 U.S. on eBay.
     
  11. scubabiker

    scubabiker NITROJUNKIE

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    We dont get 150cc over here in europe as its classed as "middle weight motorcycle" which is totally stupid, do you need to get a licence to ride scooters over there? I heard mopeds (with pedals) are popular over there
     
  12. Gemma

    Gemma Captain Spooky

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    You could buy a Chinese scooter in the UK for around £600 in a crate and PDI yourself.

    Alternatively you could buy a Honda secondhand for £350, fix a couple of issues and have a vehicle that will run for years.

    I chose the second option after asking round with friends still in the trade.
     
  13. Rockin'EZ

    Rockin'EZ Active Member

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    I enjoy China scoots, but I would also take the Honda for solid transportation.
    I would not depend on my scoot to get me to work daily, I would trust a Honda.
     

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