Piaggio electrical problem

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  1. garethm566

    garethm566 New Member

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    The electrics don't work unless the engine is running, the electric start doesnt work,fuel and oil lights keep flickering,petrol gage doesn't work,horn doesnt work unless the engine is running,top centre brake light flickers when on,indicators don't work not even on the panel telling you that they are on,Im not 100% sure but I think it could be a fuse problem,I cant seem to find the fuses on my 2000X piaggio nrg extreme Dd
     
    garethm566, Mar 1, 2012
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  2. m1ck_t

    m1ck_t Moderator Staff Member

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    You have a flat battery , replace or recharge (if it takes charge). Then when you have a good battery do a charge system check to make sure it's all working as it should otherwise you will be back to square one in a matter of days . To check the charge system you will need a multi meter.
    Set the meter to V(voltage)
    Place the red and black lead to the corresponding positive and negative of the battery .
    With the bike running at about 5 k rpm you should have a reading of around 14.5 V
    Anything above 15 and i would be checking the regulator.
    Anything under 13 and as well as regulator also check stator output.
    Set the meter to AC and put both leads on the yellow wires coming from stator (with the connection block unplugged) you should have a reading of about 40 volts when revving .

    But the chances are you just need a battery , YB4-LB as far as i remember , about 30 quid. When you fit the new battery don't forget to fit the breather pipe on the side of it too.
     
    m1ck_t, Mar 1, 2012
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  3. garethm566

    garethm566 New Member

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    Looks like I have to get a new battery,but it will have to wait till I can afford to buy one
     
    garethm566, Mar 2, 2012
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  4. billy bee

    billy bee New Member

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    You may have a bad ground or a bad connection to the battery. If you checked the battery and load tested it and it seems ok, start checking grounds.

    bb
     
    billy bee, Mar 4, 2012
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  5. garethm566

    garethm566 New Member

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    I left the battery on charge over night on Thursday and took a voltage reading on Friday afternoon,12v battery only gives an output of 7v
     
    garethm566, Mar 4, 2012
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  6. Jonnymarrw00t

    Jonnymarrw00t Moderator Staff Member

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    battery has had it.
     
    Jonnymarrw00t, Mar 4, 2012
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  7. garethm566

    garethm566 New Member

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    the guy who lives across the road,topped up the battery with water and charged it up and it worked fine
     
    garethm566, Mar 14, 2012
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  8. Duggiedan

    Duggiedan Piaggio zip 50cc

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    topped it with water? :confused:
     
    Duggiedan, Mar 14, 2012
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  9. Stig

    Stig Well-Known Member

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    distilled water is OK for small amounts and as a temp measure if its been well drained ..but if he added loads to bring it back to the right levels, the battery will most likely be on its last legs
     
    Stig, Mar 14, 2012
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  10. garethm566

    garethm566 New Member

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    When I tried it out on Saturday it cut out a couple times but I managed to get it started again
     
    garethm566, Mar 14, 2012
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  11. Duggiedan

    Duggiedan Piaggio zip 50cc

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    is the cutting out a different problem or did it do that before the electrical problem?
     
    Duggiedan, Mar 14, 2012
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  12. garethm566

    garethm566 New Member

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    I think it might be a new problem,before i could start it with the kick start,but on saturday it wouldn't start after it cut out,i had to leave it a while before it would start again,it could be an electrical issue or something else
     
    garethm566, Mar 14, 2012
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  13. Duggiedan

    Duggiedan Piaggio zip 50cc

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    When it cuts out is it fine on tick over? wen does it cut out low revs or high revs?
     
    Duggiedan, Mar 14, 2012
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  14. garethm566

    garethm566 New Member

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    It was cutting out if it wasn't being revved,to keep it going I had to rev it
     
    garethm566, Mar 14, 2012
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  15. Duggiedan

    Duggiedan Piaggio zip 50cc

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    ahhh easy problem to be solved, Find your idle screw on the carb (tell me if you dont know wat this is ill try help more) and turn it half of turn clockwise and should sort your problem mate
     
    Duggiedan, Mar 14, 2012
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  16. Jonnymarrw00t

    Jonnymarrw00t Moderator Staff Member

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    That or you have a airleak.
     
    Jonnymarrw00t, Mar 14, 2012
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  17. Duggiedan

    Duggiedan Piaggio zip 50cc

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    Hopfully it could be a simple idle screw adjustment if not he can worry bout the air leak after ;)
     
    Duggiedan, Mar 14, 2012
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  18. garethm566

    garethm566 New Member

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    The guy who lives across the road from me knows a lot about motorbikes & scooters,thanks for the offer to help,much appreciated,when My friend was able to take the side panel off there was 2 rubber hoses which should have been connected to a filter,but wasn't there,but told not to bother about it the now
     
    garethm566, Mar 15, 2012
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  19. Duggiedan

    Duggiedan Piaggio zip 50cc

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    Welcome need anymore help just post the problem and will try best to help you out
     
    Duggiedan, Mar 15, 2012
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  20. hoojy

    hoojy New Member

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    alright dudes ive got a problem with my mc3 liquicooled everything works fine exept the pissing brake lights have replaced the switches at the lever the regulator rectifier and the whole loom but with no luck any ideas ?
     
    hoojy, Mar 5, 2013
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