Oil Grade

Discussion in 'General Scooter Discussion' started by richy1985, Oct 23, 2013.

  1. richy1985

    richy1985 Member

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    wot oil grade would u recommend people on a 50 cc 4t ? cheers :)
     
  2. A-LY

    A-LY Active Member

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    5w30 or 10w40
     
  3. richy1985

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    5w thinner then a 10w
     
  4. A-LY

    A-LY Active Member

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    yes
     
  5. richy1985

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    so a 5w would be a better flow around the engine wouldn't it ?
     
  6. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

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    5W/40 fully synthetic. It will give better cold starting, slightly better fuel economy (synthetics use less energy) and synthetics degrade less than traditional oils, so the engine is better protected.
     
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  7. richy1985

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    wots the difference in car oil then bike oil
     
  8. A-LY

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    there isnt really, its all branding.
     
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  9. A-LY

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    personally, i run cheap 10w40 in my 125 and change it frequently
     
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  10. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

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    Basically, none.

    You could buy a 5W/40 synthetic car motor oil as it will meet the same API and SAE specs for petrol engines and will probably be cheaper for a larger volume. Halfrauds usually have some sort of offer on synthetic oils.

    I worked in the oil industry for 25 years before being made redundant by Shell.

    The only oil you NEVER put in bike or car petrol engines is oil designed for diesel engines. It will cause bore polish and the compression and oil consumption will go through the roof. The only cure is to have the bores honed or rebored.
     
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  11. richy1985

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    so u still recommend fully synthetic oil thou ?
     
  12. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

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    Be careful, you need to check the SAE and API ratings, as cheaper oils meet lower specifications. What you want is the highest alphabetical letter after the S and C on the label, e.g. SM/CH is the latest API rating (I think) and will be better than SJ/CF, which is an older obsolete spec.
     
  13. Merlin

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    Yes, I'd go fully synthetic all the way. Shell used to do a semi-synthetic bike oil called Gemini but I think that's been discontinued. Synthetics won't cause the 'black death' sludge that can form inside engines as they are more thermally stable.
     
  14. richy1985

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    got a Haynes Manuel here and it says 5w40 api sj synthetic oil
     
  15. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

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    Anything later than SJ spec is good and they recommend fully synthetic anyway.
     
  16. richy1985

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    so fully synthetic 5w 40 will try it cheers matey for info
     
  17. Burridge

    Burridge Ambulance selfie King

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    Use whatever it says to in the manual.
     
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  18. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

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    He is doing, see post No. 14 where he says it needs 5W/40 synthetic.
     

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