New Bulbs - Ticking Battery

Discussion in 'General Scooter Discussion' started by JoJo, Dec 14, 2013.

  1. JoJo

    JoJo Active Member

    Messages:
    671
    Rides:
    Honda MSX
    Any help with this,
    just put the new Xenon Bulbs into the Bike...

    took the front plastic off, removed the rubber guard, took the rubbery guard off the lamp plastic, turned the bulb mount anticlockwise, took the bulb out, put the new one in, put everything back, turned the Bike on to check, and constant ticking by the battery.....

    I've never had to mess with the bulbs before on any of my Bikes so not sure why this is caused and how to sort it? the Bulbs bought are 12v etc, perfect fit and so on, didnt do anything else diff...

    any suggestions?
     
  2. JoJo

    JoJo Active Member

    Messages:
    671
    Rides:
    Honda MSX
    This is the back, obv pretty simple, cant really do anything wrong... and a pic of the Bulb actually working...
    I checked the 2 Bulbs (old and new) and both are the same, H7 12V 55W,
    so why the clicking/ticking noise all of a sudden from the Battery?

    IMG_6300.jpg
    IMG_6288.jpg
     
  3. GazD

    GazD Active Member

    Messages:
    153
    the 55w HID might be sucking to much juice from your battery,,,,you might need to fit ballasts,relays etc to make it work properly
     
  4. JoJo

    JoJo Active Member

    Messages:
    671
    Rides:
    Honda MSX
    How come its only now though if both old and new are the same type?
    I turned the ignition on and off a few times to show my Step Dad (he's an electrician) and its seemed to of stopped now, going to try it again tomorrow as the weathers just got bad again!
     
  5. GazD

    GazD Active Member

    Messages:
    153
    if both old and new bulbs are the same why did you change them
     
  6. JoJo

    JoJo Active Member

    Messages:
    671
    Rides:
    Honda MSX
    The new ones are Xenon, brighter.. white, as I have a white LED strip going in so needed the Bulbs on the Bike to be the same and not the yellowy colour... but both H7 12V 55W
     
  7. GazD

    GazD Active Member

    Messages:
    153
    xenon bulbs are a type of HID lamp,,,,,,they need a high voltage to get started which might be causing this ticking sound

    fitting HID lamps may involve fitting a kit to solve this problem


    can you tell i just googled that,,,hahaha
     
  8. JoJo

    JoJo Active Member

    Messages:
    671
    Rides:
    Honda MSX
    lol thanks, well the tickings seemed to of stopped, but i'll try again tomorrow and go from there, are there any other bulbs you can suggest that are white but dont need this 'high voltage to get started'...?
     
  9. GazD

    GazD Active Member

    Messages:
    153
    give me a second and il google it for ya,lol,,,cause i havnt a clue about scooters
     
  10. JoJo

    JoJo Active Member

    Messages:
    671
    Rides:
    Honda MSX
    My stepdads an electrician and even he was stumped on why both bulbs are 55watt and 12volt yet the xenon one is making the battery tick... again it seems to be ok at the moment, havent strated the Bike for a week due to weather so havent been able to check again yet, hate this weather :-(
     
  11. JoJo

    JoJo Active Member

    Messages:
    671
    Rides:
    Honda MSX
  12. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

    Messages:
    2,305
    Rides:
    2007 TKR WRC 50
    If HID bulbs weren't fitted as standard on your bike (or car, for that matter), then retrofitting them may result in an MOT failure in 2014. This has been recently introduced as part of the revised MOT tests for 2014.

    "High brightness halogen bulbs" will be OK as they aren't HIDs, but HID kits on older cars and bikes will definitely be a fail in 2014.
     
  13. JoJo

    JoJo Active Member

    Messages:
    671
    Rides:
    Honda MSX
    I just checked and these so called Xenon ones are actually Halogen, same 12v 55w as my original, so why are they making my Battery tick/click? also I just got back from a ride and they dont seem to light up the road that good even though they're supposed to be brighter, weird.
     
  14. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

    Messages:
    2,305
    Rides:
    2007 TKR WRC 50
    They are probably drawing too much current from the battery so the charging circuit is always playing 'catch up'. It could also be the starter motor relay clicking as that is located near the battery.

    You may need a new or a higher capacity battery to run two Xenons together. Xenons need a lot more current to 'ignite' them compared to standard bulbs and it may be overloading the regulator.

    Two bulbs would draw the best part of 10 amps, so check what your battery's capacity is in amp hours and what your charging circuit can put out in amps - if you have a workshop manual this information will be in there.
     
  15. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

    Messages:
    2,305
    Rides:
    2007 TKR WRC 50
    Case closed then, as they are tripping the regulator and the starter relay, as the battery can't keep up with the current draw. The battery voltage must be collapsing and he is risking buckling the battery plates and sh*gging up the battery.
     
  16. JoJo

    JoJo Active Member

    Messages:
    671
    Rides:
    Honda MSX
    I just got a new Battery for it anyway for that specific Bike,
    it states in my manual for the Bike that I need H7 12v 55W Bulbs,
    which were the ones currently in there but the normal yellowy colour (Halogen),
    the ones i've put in now are white Halogen, H7 12v 55w.... (Halogen, not Xenon)
    so they're the same 12v 55w Halogen Bulbs but just white instead of yellowy,
    the ticking isnt there anymore so im not sure why it was doing it in the first place,
    I do have another Bulb, same H7 12V 55W (White Xenon Look) which i'll try and see if it ticks again.
     
  17. JoJo

    JoJo Active Member

    Messages:
    671
    Rides:
    Honda MSX
    Put the new Battery in, straight away there was a ticking...
    I got a new Bulb which came yesterday so i'll put that in on the 1 side which I use mostly and put the original yellowy one back in on the other side which I dont use...
    just need the centre bulb but not 100% sure what it looks like, just changed the Battery and it started raining so the covers back over the Bike until I get change the Bulbs tomorrow :-(
     
  18. JoJo

    JoJo Active Member

    Messages:
    671
    Rides:
    Honda MSX
    Confused and p'd off...
    its clicking with all of them,
    I even put the originals back in, both, and still clicking,

    so thats the originals clicking,
    the FOUR H7 Halogen (coloured) ones,
    and the 1 Halogen (white Xenon look which is actually yellow not white)

    I put the 2 coloured ones in which I hadn't used previously,
    but for some reason the base was yellow and the end was white,
    where as on the first 2 I used they were all white....
    think the 2nd lot were getting more yellowly the longer I kept them on though :-/

    the Xenon Look one which is supposed to me white..
    I put that 1 in with 1 of the yellow originals, yet that white one is yellow!!

    so yeah, got the 2 originals back in now, yellowy,
    so basically been a big waste of time trying 5 Bulbs lol
    but I dont understand why its still clicking with the originals ones in?
     
  19. JoJo

    JoJo Active Member

    Messages:
    671
    Rides:
    Honda MSX
    This was a weird one, yellowy at the base but white at the end :-/
    sending these back anyway, bought 4 of them,
    going to go with a good brand,
    is anyone can suggest one....
    need it bright white!
    H7 12V 55W
    regarding the relay clicking, im going to find it and check theres no loose connections,
    and buy a new one as they're only £12.50...

    IMG_7188.jpg
     
  20. JoJo

    JoJo Active Member

    Messages:
    671
    Rides:
    Honda MSX

Share This Page