motoforce racing

Discussion in 'General Scooter Discussion' started by chriscam09, Jan 14, 2009.

  1. chriscam09

    chriscam09 New Member

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    hi, just wondering what everyone thinks of the motoforce racing 70cc kit. got it on my runner at the moment.

    chris
     
  2. Dec

    Dec Active Member

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    nothing ugm
    same as the pm xtech kit.

    but still rather have the kit with motoforce on the box :rofl:

    good gains for the price imo.
     
  3. mhr-typhoon

    mhr-typhoon New Member

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    seems to be a good kit 4 of my mates have them one has had it for 8 months now and still going like it was new
     
  4. waxhead

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    I have one on my aerox
    I modified the porting and flowed the cases
    its hauls for what it is
    It will lift the wheel off the line
    if you have a look in scooter projects you can see it
    I figure it has about 15-16 hp
     
  5. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn Administrator Staff Member

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    right, not a bad cylinder but remember it is made in china so will be a little sloppy.. not sure how good the pistons are ether (wax?)

    as for the pm tunning kit.. LOL its the same thing, with some dirt casting in the side.. oh a diff box and costs like 40 quid more.

    if your gonna get one, go on the euro sites and order an ACTUALL motorforce cylinder.. dont have to deal with pm doing the usual m@its for race use, we dont do returns on cylinders, you fitted it wrong) when it fails.. where as from a proper supplier you get some leway if you can show you have a clkue and it still lasted 5 mins.

    in all honesty you can get power from cheap kits.. the real diff is the material its cast from and how well finnished it is, most cheaper kits are NOT hand finnished and quite rough cast. spend out on a decent kit and you wont have to fuck about wiht it
     
  6. waxhead

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    It seems to be a nice kit
    the piston is not like other kits i have seen
    Its actually very well made
    I think its actually high quality china

    You know you can actually get china to make some quality stuff if you ask them
    Most people seem to just get them to make cheap shit

    The cylinder is actually a very good casting and it seem to be made like a mhr rep
    with slightly more timing

    the cylinder needs to have the aux exhaust ports opened up as they curl back in


    I would have no issue with using one of these again at this stage its been awesome
     
  7. chriscam09

    chriscam09 New Member

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    I agree completely. I have had it on for a few weekks now and its still running perfect. Revs throught the roof. You can get maby 14hp out of the box however ive ported the cylinder and botom end and have got 18.2. the port timings and the actual layout of the ports is very similar to the evo 2. the exhaust port is a lot smaller than it should be tho.

    yeah the piston is strange, but seems to be of a good quality.

    chris
     
  8. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn Administrator Staff Member

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    18.2? who did this....


    oh and why ask if you know the answer? should just recomend it to people surewly not ask there opinion of somthing you already have.. seems a littrle pointless to me (not bein funny) s
     
  9. chriscam09

    chriscam09 New Member

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    i herd it got a bad reputation for quality. Just wanted to know peoples general opinions about it. Didnt mean to cause any trouble.
     
  10. waxhead

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    you got 18.2 on the dyno
    cool
    can i see the print out and your spec sheet
    i would love to see how it makes its power and where
    it would help me set mine up alot
    thanks
     
  11. chriscam09

    chriscam09 New Member

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    hey, i dnt have to spec sheet, but i can tell you that it made most power at 12800 rpm. what setup are you running on the cylinder? :)

    chris
     
  12. waxhead

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    wow 12800 is high
    i am runing a
    city 16
    v-force reed
    21mm delorto
    case porting
    inner rotor ignition
    bgm full circle crank
     
  13. waxhead

    waxhead Member

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    whats your setup
     
  14. typh70

    typh70 New Member

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    i had a pm kit good power and brilliant while it lasted,
    i went through 2 in about 5 months
     
  15. chriscam09

    chriscam09 New Member

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    25mm carb
    case porting
    cylinder ported
    full stage 6 intake
    e13 filter
    mallossi overange
    polini clutch

    useing a yazuni z exhaust for everyday use, but dyno runs are with c21.

    chris
     
  16. waxhead

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    What does it rev to on the z pipe

    What ignition are you running
     

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