kubler zip 300 monster

Discussion in 'Maxiscooter Tuning' started by andythebuilder, Dec 4, 2016.

  1. andythebuilder

    andythebuilder New Member

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    20160622_142143.jpg 20161014_202901.jpg Hi all,
    I posted about a zip lc 200 conversion a while ago, but that was a bit tame, so i rebuilt the engine with a kubler crank conversion with malossi 300 kit, dellorto phf 38, tuned air intake to the second harmonic 70mm intent trumpet with a ram air filter sock, innerotor ignition, one off camshaft ground by webcams in Massachusetts USA,
    The power is controlled by a Dr pulley hit clutch and bell, malossi torque driver Polini primary and malossi secondary gears.
    So i have 30.5 rwbhp 0-60 circa 3.5 seconds and a top speed electronically limited to the110 mph ( i dont want to over rev the engine and blow it up), the power is right on cam at around 60mph - 85 mph and i have filled my trousers twice on the motorway by being to aggressive with the throttle and the front end lifting. WP_20161204_10_22_19_Pro.jpg WP_20161204_10_23_44_Pro.jpg WP_20161204_10_24_56_Pro.jpg WP_20161204_10_27_25_Pro.jpg WP_20161204_10_27_45_Pro.jpg WP_20161204_10_23_55_Pro.jpg WP_20161204_10_24_33_Pro.jpg WP_20161204_10_24_13_Pro.jpg WP_20161204_10_25_07_Pro.jpg
    I have made an electronic dash and fitted it into a piaggio fly 3v set of clocks, the frame required no mods as i manufactured a special engine mount.
    The look i was after was totally stock and i think i have achieved this as people think this is the new facelift zip.
    The rev counter is a special 20,000 digital one i also wired a volt meter above it, where the original clock i replaced it with a digital 3 function read out. Every 5 seconds it flashes the time, then the outside temp (you can see the thermostat fitted in the front fairing ), then the exhaust gas temp.Their is also a battery monitor fitted where the ecl was ( it turns green amber or red to warn of over/under charging)
    I fitted heated grips and special bar end weights with the mirrors attached.
    The front and rear suspension is imported from YSS Thailand and is a factory race spec.
    There are two vespa GTS radiators fitted one in the usual place and one under the floor up against the wheel well. I fitted a digital engine coolant gauge to the left handler cowling and a stereo to the right. WP_20161204_10_22_37_Pro.jpg 20161008_131045.jpg 20161008_130946.jpg 20161008_131004.jpg
     
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  2. scootinon

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    Very sweet ride. Well done. It really looks smart. Mirror placement really works. Total quality I can see. Adult nappies work for the pants filling.... [emoji23]

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  3. rossm

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    Seen your bike over at modernvespa and I really do like it
     
  4. Burridge

    Burridge Ambulance selfie King

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    That thing looks and sounds nuts. Good job dude!
     
  5. Civvy

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    Nice. Are these Leader cases then?
    Did you consider EFI?
     
  6. andythebuilder

    andythebuilder New Member

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    Hi c these are indeed leader cases, it started life as a 124cc zip and i wanted a bit more pep, i went down the road of an ac malossi 187 kit along with all the bells and whistles it produced 17.5 rwhp but not enough so from there on i went lc and it all got a bit out of hand after that lol several thousand £ later and i ended up with this beauty. the fi system is very flawed for piaggio and not tunable, the carb i have is a monster in itself a dellorto phf38 which is usually found on a big ducati superbike.
    until i have a steeper primary gear made i am stuck at 110 mph, i have seen 118 mph but the engine was screaming at 14200 rpm the sound between 10,000 - 13,000 rpms is so sexy think exotica italian sports car noise :)
     
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  8. Stevep

    Stevep Well-Known Member

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    Now that's the kind of build I like.
    It looks like nothing fancy, quite standard in fact.
    But then it shifts like it shouldn't.:eek::D
    And you upgraded the brakes as well, which is what a lot of people forget to do, with the obvious bone breaking consequences.
    Very nice, well done.
     
  9. andythebuilder

    andythebuilder New Member

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    many thanks for your kind comments steve, i have always gone for the wolf in sheeps clothing look, it also keeps plod and thieves at bay.
    i particularly liked the look of an m3 drivers face when i flashed him over to the middle lane at 100 mph, it was wtf an egg whisk just flew past me am i seeing things.
    another time i was at the lights when an audi r6 rolled up, he bailed out of the drag race as i reached 70 , he would not look at me at the next set of lights he was far to embarrassed to admit he had just been smoked by a moped :), when the lights turned green again he did not want to play LOL.
    cheers Andy
     
  10. Stevep

    Stevep Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I love doing stuff like that, but my bikes are much bigger cc, older, but modded.
    My zzr was the one that chav's liked to take on, no chance obviously, 0-60 in 3 seconds (1st gear), 100mph in 5 seconds (2nd gear)
    Scoobies, Skylines, GT3's, all dust.............I do miss it sometimes................

    But as we all know, you can spend mega £'s on all these mods and you'll never see it all back, but it's what we like to do so it doesn't really matter, we just move on to the next one.
     
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  11. scubabiker

    scubabiker NITROJUNKIE

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    Good to see a tuned 4 stroke
     
  12. scubabiker

    scubabiker NITROJUNKIE

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    You thought about nitro and forced induction?
     
  13. andythebuilder

    andythebuilder New Member

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    Hi buddy yes been there and done that on a s6rt 69cc zip sp , it was lethal and is the reason i have titanium knees hips and elbow, nearly killed me at Santa pod down the 1/4 partially blocked fogger unblocked and the scooter flipped at over 80mph.
    It's well documented on another site, it's the reason i now tune 4ts it's enough of a challenge, all to my Mrs and grand kids relief.
    Cheers Andy
     
  14. greyrider

    greyrider New Member

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    Hi there,

    Have you tried riding from The Unicorn to the end of Bonis Hall Lane and back, without using the brakes?
    It's challenging, yet very rewarding.
    I have seen other's try it, but launch into the trees, at Sidney Jackson's!
    Great engine work btw!
    I am doing a Kubler Hexagon 300 from the GTX 125, I have an LXT 180 too.
    I have a turbo GSXR1100K as well.
    I just love tuning and out there builds.

    All the Best
     
  15. Str

    Str New Member

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    Hello,

    What innerotor ignition did you use?
     
  16. scubabiker

    scubabiker NITROJUNKIE

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    Doppler do one I think?
     

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