Blimey you must really suffer with cold hands lol Ok the next step is to try it with the winter gloves and if that combination doesn't work then you'll either have to add heated grips or maybe some heated gloves if you don't want to strip the scooter down.
Have you tried silk under gloves ? I use them in winter when I'm cycling and used to wear them under my work gloves when I worked in a freezer and it was -22 in there !!! They aren't a fortune off ebay Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
What? My mitts where not frozen inside at minus 12, in fact i even had a hole in them for the mirrors and my hands stayed relatively warm... Hmmm Tried disposable gloves like i said?
I think the muff are just rubbish. On my commute this morning, I took a glove off and rode for a bit. I Might as well not have had the muffs on. I could feel the wind moving around my hand. These are the the ones I have https://www.amazon.co.uk/Givi-TM418-Handlebar-Protectors/dp/B0052RV4OW I think i'll have to try the silk gloves a few people have mentioned them. May get a box of disposable ones. I'll have a Google.
Petrol stations have disposable gloves for free, try it. On my arctic trip my gloves froze! It was hilarious!
There's a difference between the oncoming air blasting on to your hands and air moving around inside the muffs. Can you not do something with any gaps which I suspect are around the mirror holes? Try the heavier gloves. Have you tried moving your fingers while riding to get the circulation going? Are you gripping the bars too tightly cutting off the circulation? I find it strange that your fingers are still getting cold wearing gloves inside muffs. You could just buy those cheap heated gloves with the batteries on the cuffs to see if it helps?
I took my old Yamaha townmate out for a ride yesterday what a difference riding with out hand guards I only went 7 miles but wearing the same gloves as usual no hand guards allowed the wind to hit my gloves , made my hands really cold
I presume the straps on the top are for mirrors? Is there a gap there that is not fully closing up? It says in the ad that they are for any type of mirror do they close up if the scooter has mirrors on the fairing? Possibly if that is the case some stick on velcro may help? You seemed to be getting a gradually better result when you changed to the newer glove so surely effectively covering the glove completely with the muffs should be quite an improvement? If you really do suffer from cold hands even with the muffs on possibly considering the mitt type gloves may help. The idea is that with all 4 fingers together it keeps them warmer. You can also get split ones either 1 + 3 or 2 + 2 fingers. If all that fails then heated gloves or inners are your last resort.
Well that is your opinion and if you don't like them fair enough but for someone who says he commutes 1 1/2 hrs I would think any gloves would not protect you from the cold much.
Why do you bother saying anything when you never have anything constructive or positive to say? You dont know shit and nobody cares about your worthless fucking opinions "i would never use muffs like that look stupid" shows you cant even form a proper sentence its winter looks dont come out on top when trying to stay warm and safe (apoligies to OP - ukguy really pisses me off) Tried Scubabikers tip of disposable gloves in my summer gloves for shits and giggles (as a pillion though) and my hands were sweating by the end of the ride
I find its the wind hitting your hands well your fingers that makes it so cold, so I would assume anything that stopped that must help , whether guards fairing or muffs ,I know my legs are not as wind chilled on my scooter as I am on my naked bike when I worked 10 miles from home and travelled by Honda 90 so no real speed if I put carrier bags over my boots and gloves I never got really cold till I had covered about 8 miles froze the last two mind you
I feel like a bit of a wimp here, but I use heated grips and handlebar mufflers. The grips on my scooter are the Oxford scooter grips. They're pretty much the same as the standard ones, but the controller only has hi/lo/off positions, rather than the 4 different levels on the standard set. The mufflers are toucano urbano, the ones that look like boxing gloves. They're a bit fiddly for reaching switchgear, as the clusters are outside of the mufflers, but you quickly get used to it. They're good because they are almost completely closed. The levers go through a small hole, the part you put your hand in has an elasticated cuff around it, so almost not air gets in or out. I use a normal pair of gloves, the mufflers keep them dry in shitty weather, and all these things combined keep my hands toasty warm.
Thanks for all the comments on this. I will try to 'garage disposable' gloves at some point. Although the weather is meant to be warming up, so all good. I think heated gloves and muffs are the way forward for me.
i gave up trying to keep hands toasty warm , i have a set of winter gloves but even after the rubber mallet they are still to stiff to wear , even in the smallest size they have around half an inch upto an inch where they dont fit my fingers fully (got very small hands) , at the moment out of all the gloves i tried on i could only find a cheap summer riding glove with a waterproof memberane inside that fitted perfect, and the fact they are kids gloves do not help either. to combat cold, i pull over and sit on my hands to get warmth back or shove them inside my jacket , heated gloves are just to expensive, heated grips would blow out my stator or mean a charging battery every day/night , muffs would get stolen round this way so would mean removing them and installing them every time i ride.
yeah i tried, even rugby ball dubbing , and good old boot polish , and steves idea of belting them with a rubber mallet to soften up, i think the problem lays with me having very small hands and companys making gloves for folks with shovels as hands lol
Shouldn't do. The Oxford scooter ones only pull a couple of amps, and as long as you wire them into a source that only works with the ignition on, they won't kill your battery.