how to make my scoot EVEN more faster...

i have a 2001 yamaha neos (50)
de restricted
sports exhaust
5.5 gram rollers
upjetted 15%

currently goes 50mph while cold but only 45mph when the engine is warm
when its cold acceleration is quick and smooth...
when its warm it is slower and its not smooth acceleration at all.
any ideas what could be causing this?


how to make it go EVEN faster without too much effort/money.
i dont want to install a 70cc kit and i wan to avoid taking apart the engine too much. what mods can i do now?

((still pretty new to scooter tuning ))

 

wat derestrictions have u removed

try going up a bit more on the jet see if it cures your hot hesitation could also be plug breaking down at high temp or lead at high temp
try replacing this
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also try a better sparkplug and a new foam air filter and maybe some carbon fibre race reeds

 

Wouldn't listen to the above about fitting a foam air filter, couldn't be give much worse advice. They do SFA on a pretty much standard bike, if you're looking for more speed your engine needs more capacity so a 70 kit would be the next logical step.

I wouldn't worry too much about the running of the kit as long as you can have it fitted properly as the sport kits if looked after can run just as well as a stock part. If you want to get the most out of how it is, then piss about with the transmission but a 70 kit should be the next step. :good:

 

I agree with Gamble, he always talks sense. The only other welcome addition to this setup is a variator as the aerox/neos can benefit from these more than most. But grab a 70 kit and if you've got the dough maybe a larger carb but its not essential. Then you will fly! I agree with Martain in the way of replacing the spark plug if it has been in it for a while and also the air filter if its knackered but just original equipment parts not upgrades.

 

OK thatks, but i was wondering do all NEO'S have a restricted CDI mine is quite old (2001) so i'm not too sure...

also i have removed the variator restricter and replaced the exhaust that was restricted.

i dont really think i'd be able to upgrade to a 70 kit myself and its pretty expensive.

and i'm guessing that its not normal for performance to change drastically with engine temperature

 

im sick of you lot u all thiunk u know it all i shant bother with this site no more i leave to your perfetic lifes where u think u know everything enjoy riding your peds that dont make it to a 100mph because u beleive in wifes tales no wonder it dont get a lot of posts

 

MY APPOLIGIES FOR MY BAD TEMPER U ALL SEEM TO HAVE A DIFFERENT IDEA OF TUNING TO ME AND THATS FAIR PLAY ILL JUST KEEP MY OPINIONS TO MYSELF FROM NOW ON SORRY IF I OFFENDED ANYONE JUST HAD A BAD DAY

FAIR PLAY TERRO IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH MY METHODS OF TUNING I HAVE BEEN A QUALIFIED BIKE MECHANIC FOR A DECADE AND HAVE BEEN RIDING BIKES AND FIXING/RESTORING THEM SINCE I COULD

I HAVE A LOT OF BIKES AND CARS BUT ILL JUST KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT AND MY OPINIONS TO MY SELF AGAIN MY APPOLIGIES FOR BEING SO RUDE

 

It's not about opinions, it's the fact that you're saying things that have not only been covered many times on here and every time we arrive at the same conclusion. Not to mention the post about how you believe a 125 with a race pipe, bigger jet and lighter rollers could beat a 172 which is clearly an A class load of bollocks.

I try and give advice where I can and occasionally get it wrong but you seem to continue to give bad advice and I'm not going to second guess you as a 'mechanic' however your skill in fuckwittery is incredible.

As for building all of the above and racing bikes, you sound like a 16 year old with a Runner trying to be a big man over the Internet. May be wrong, but it's your fault it's coming across this way. No one else.

 

FAIR PLAY LIKE I SAID I AINT GONNA POST ANY MORE COMMENTS ILL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU GUYS

AND ILL HAPPILY SHOW YOU PICS OF MY COLLECTION MOSTLY BRITISH BIKES TRIUMPHS VELOCETTE'S BSA'S RARE MOPEDS IF YOU DOUBT THAT IS BUT IM NO KEYBOARD WARRIOR AND IM NOT GONNA ARGUE THE POINT WITH YOU IF YOU SAY YOUR RIGHT IM HAPPY TO LEAVE IT AT THAT

 

Not saying I'm right on anything mate and don't feel that you shouldn't post. Try not to post on an opinion if someone's wanting fact. Like I said not doubting anything you're saying just seems if you've got all this expertise you should post like it?

Definitely get some pictures up though, people love something new on here.

 

i see what your both saying and i dont like to argue with people specaially when im hijacking someone elses post i suggested the CDI as a fact for the reason it states in its listing it removes the restriction ok so 10k is a lot of revs but a 2 stroke loves to rev rev rev, and i said a bike with the same amount of money spent on mods maybe you have done this test i dont know as i dont know you but id like to see the difference cc does not mean more power, rgv250 race tuned vs rg500 standard i just think most peple come to the asumption cc is power and that is not the case in my opinion

i also stated fact about his hesitation problem maybe his filter as could b covered in ahite and not drawing air in i dont know im just trying to cover the basics (i fort all standard mopeds had foam filter in the airbox?) plus plug lead and jetting

i always state for my opinion like u say your not always right and neither am i which is why i say imo

 

Yes there's being wrong and then there's arguing with tried and tested advice that's been gone over many times on here and unfortunately people on here when looking for advice will take it on board, spend money and end up with a disappointing result. There's giving an opinion on what maybe a problem would be but when it comes to tuning there's a difference between your opinion and fact. Both of which so far have been miles apart so far.

 

OK well i doubt the piston rings aretoo worn - i've only done 2000 miles.. i'll chech my spark plug and wiring for that. i'll try upjetting a bit more if that doesnt work...

thanks for the help guys