hi guys ,noobie nel here

hi folks
im nelly or nel ,im 46 and a member of various forums
rd,
aircooled
v strom
t4
metal detecting
etc etc

ive had loads of bikes but never had a scooter

now both my lads have bought [ with my help ] a "ped"
a 2002 100cc Yamaha aerox
a 2005 gilera runner 125 vx
so im gonna need some help im sure
im from hucknall in Nottingham
anyway
ive not had time to even look at the aerox yet as the runner is keeping me busy for now
so far . its had ;
air filter
oil filter
plug
oil
a new starter bendix gear
a new tyre next , not looking forward to removing the exhaust to get to the wheel off
it a bit dirty but the engine is sweet as a nut ,it runs really well no nasty knocks or rattles
1 owner and judging by the state of the rust everywhere he must have used it all year round for commuting
BUT [ here it comes .I hear you say ]
it struggles to start when left for a few hours
it appears to be flooding ,so if I take the [wet] plug out and turn it over for a couple of seconds to get rid of the excess fuel in the bore ,clean the plug and replace it ,it fires up straight away
I believe its either the tap thing under the small tank or the float level or a the jet not seating properly in the carb
now if it had a proper fuel tap like im used to , surely if I turned it off it would stop the flooding
so how do I rectify this, without chucking money at it needlessly,where do I look first?

thanks guys and gals

hope to hear from you knowledgeable guys soon
nel

 

hi and welcome to the forum,
carbs not really my thing as more into injected systems myself but a tap off ebay is a few quid and easy enough to fit, done them a few times myself and putting one in on my ped soon, just cut the fuel line at where you want the tap to go and connect either ends with a clip over both ends where the fuel lines connect to the tap. sounds like the easiest solution to me, this is what id do if it runs and rides fine once started anyway.

 

thanks buddy and thanks for the welcome

 

Greetings and welcome
Try to not continuously crank the bike, short 3 second bursts on the button if enough. The carbs are small and flood really quickly

 

thanks guys
but mark
I don't think anything is blocked as its flooding when stood
there,s no fuel shortage
sorry perhaps I didn't explain properly
and stevep
that's a good tip ,thankyou
thanks again all

 

mark hardly knows what he is talking about and mark hardly anyone can understand the way you bloody type man!
if it runs fine once started, Id be looking at the way you start it or do what seems to be the easiest thing for you and install a fuel tap

 

"the way I start it"
don't you just press the button? lol
all the bikes ive had ,when cold pull the choke out ,let it idle,then slowly turn choke off til it idles without any choke
one pipe from tank to carb , theres pipes all over these things
but no manaual choke
yes id thought about fitting a manual tap but how would he get to it when all the plastics are on?
I reckon im gonna go with that poxy tap thing below the secondary fuel tank
if that don't work im stuck big time
help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
just don't want to keep replacing parts willy nilly as hes getting fed up with spending on it already
I told him he better get used to it lol

 

btw ive had the carb off today ,
it wasn't dirty at all but I cleaned all the jets out anyway and re-set the float level as it was very slightly too high
then it took ages to re-start just to refill all those bloody pipes
I left it running for half an hour to warm up then turned it off
it started straight away , then left it for an hour and it started again
now im gonna leave it till tomoz and see what happens in the morning
I just know it wont have it

 

how long you press the button in, or kick it, if you pull on the throttle and if you do how much etc,
usually should just start straight off the button with very little throttle, and not have to be cranked over and over which is usually what floods the engine. you may want to be carful with some scoots just leaving them to run for half an hour at a time, they can overheat easily if its aircooled, not sure if yours is aircooled or watercooled just thought id put that up though.
if you have the same issue tomorrow as you did before take the carb off again and see where the float is, and if its back where it was before being reset start looking at why its gone back there, cant be much help more help as im no good with carbs, im going to be running a inline tap on mine, ill be able to just reach under the panel to turn the tap off, but then again probably too much hassle/pain in the arse for him to be doing when he turns it off lol

 

thanks buddy
yes its a vx125 4t
theres no kick start and it is indeed water cooled
as for starting ,I don't use any throttle ,perhaps il try a tiny bit tomoz
ive just tried it and it started on the button no problem
I really cant see how the float level could change overnight
surely the weight/push of the fuel on the float wouldn,t bend the tang again
thanks buddy keep them suggestions coming cuz after only 5 days its started to get on me tits
AND
ive just tried to start the aerox and that bas@@@d wont go either
but the good news is my tw still starts on the button
im reckoning that if I was to start a scooter business it,ll have to have a workshop the size of a aircraft hangar
to fit in all these shite peds lol
are any of them trouble free ??
rant over

 

the only ped I haven't had trouble with was my baby, my 1992 Honda vision sa50-m
never broke down, always got me where I wanted and always put a smile on my face.
if your having issues with any ped might be worth talking to hairyjim. hes a absolute legend and can usually help with any issue on peds.

 

thankyou I will send him a pm

 

lol
don't know how to send a pm
never mind
"JIM JIM HELP MEEEEEE PLEASE !!!!!!!!!

 

type in hairyjim in the search bar on the main page, youll soon find him, click his name, a little box will appear and one of the options will say start conversation, click that and your on your way

 

THANKS AGAIN BUDDY
but I think you have hit the nail on the head my friend!!!
after taking in what said about the" way I start it" ive just been to try and start it and it dint go first time BUT;
I then tried holding it at about quarter throttle whilst hitting the button and it started easily
so I tried it again the same way and bingo

only time will tell , so I will let you know what happens in the morning when its been stood all night
thanks again [ fingers crossed ]

 

UPDATE;;
couldn,t wait til morning
AND ......................................................... it............................................................................................wont f@@@ing start again

 

pull the carb and see If the floats moved..
if its flooding while its stood then theres something up, how im a mechanic and don't know anything about carbs I don't know :facepalm:
im sure hairyjim will be along at some point if you haven't already messaged him.