Heres my dyno, whats next to get it better?

Discussion in 'General Tuning' started by YogiAerox0393, Nov 9, 2010.

  1. YogiAerox0393

    YogiAerox0393 New Member

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    So i got my aerox dyno'd and heres my graph...

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    As you can see im getting max power around about 9000rpm, but yet its still revving up past 10000rpm, the person who dyno'd my bike stopped at 45mph as the revs just kpt on creeeping up and he didn't want to blow it...

    Since the bike was dyno'd i swapped my 4.1 gram rollers for 3 4.1 rollrs and 3 4.5 rollers, this helped a little but i still dont think its producing peak power and is still revving like mad past 45mph...

    What can i do to help this get a lttle better ??

    What i',m running...

    Aerox 2003
    Polini Sport 70cc
    Hebo Performer Chrome Pipe
    Standard carb(96 main jet)
    Open Polini Air Filter
    Standard clutch with polini springs
    Top Racing Torque Spring
    mix 4.1 and 4.5g rollers.
    Polini Speed Control Variator And Polini Fan Pulley..
    And i thinkkk thats it o_O...
     
  2. Gilly-93

    Gilly-93 Member

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    i can't see it :confused:cratch:
     
  3. sammyboi

    sammyboi New Member

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    me either
     
  4. YogiAerox0393

    YogiAerox0393 New Member

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  5. sammyboi

    sammyboi New Member

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    crank and cdi mybe?
     
  6. YogiAerox0393

    YogiAerox0393 New Member

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    thing is i want to keep revs down, and power up.. max power is being made around about 9000rpm so theres no need for the revs to be much higher, and if imnot gona be going over 10000rpm, do you really think im goona need to upgrade crank? if i was to add a crank i would go for a new crank, cdi, primary gear-up and 19mm carb... but i was looking to tune my set up down to keep max power through out rather than go along the line of a high rev set up. not paticulary looking to splash out the money on the crank + fitting..
     
  7. sammyboi

    sammyboi New Member

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    hmmm :confused:cratch: in that case im not sure mate
     
  8. duzzer

    duzzer New Member

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    have you tryed heavier rollers like 4.5g - 5.0g?,,,

    heavier roller will help to bring the rpm down
     
  9. capri dave

    capri dave Active Member

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    thing is the polini cast iron is a relatively low revving kit, its more a low to mid range
    torque monster than a screamer....

    I would say a 21mm carb would be the next logical step, and should fatten up your power curve...

    i got a noticeable increase in performance when i changed my std carb for a 21mm, back in my old polini cast iron days :grin:
     
  10. YogiAerox0393

    YogiAerox0393 New Member

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    thanks for the replys, as soon as i go a tad heavier in rollers i get a nice big BOG about mid-range.. i also thought the polini kit wasn't a screamer, which is why im trying ot keep revs down and power up! i dont think the hebo performer pipe helps to much as it's producing peak power 9000rpm, but i didn't think that was TOOO high. i think i've got a 22mm lieing about, i'll give it ago n see what happens :p cheers guys... keep the ideas coming in..
     
  11. capri dave

    capri dave Active Member

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    thats exactly what i found on mine m8, i had a leo vince zx on my polini cast iron, and it went really well, considering....then i changed to a Laser x-pro, did a shit load of messing around setting it up, but i never thought it went as well as the zx :confused:cratch:

    and we all know how crap everyone says the zx is :lol:

    The morale of the story is, the cast iron suits a low revving pipe...

    you could get your cast iron ported, to bring the timings in line with your pipe :grin:
    just raising the exhaust port 1mm and opening out and matching the whole exhaust tract would do the trick ;)
     
  12. YogiAerox0393

    YogiAerox0393 New Member

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    i'll give the 22mm a try and if not maybe look into getting the kit ported :) thanks for the help..
     
  13. grantmc3

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    why dont you fit a gear up kit this will help you go higher speeds with less revs
     
  14. Gilly Boi Mike 70

    Gilly Boi Mike 70 New Member

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    Gear up kit and a 21mm carb with air filter
     
  15. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn Administrator Staff Member

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    curve is a mess... not even got fueling, so i can only go on transmission problems

    from the looks of it its revving out then dropping off the revs... it looks like like its getting there in a lazy fassion too. needs lighter rollers and slightly softer springs. can see the rollers are climbing too quickly and killing off the revs. if you dont like the fact the bike is revving the way it is to make peak power you need to change the pipe... ether way a full throttle run like this should be straight on the power and stay there untill around top speed where the line will fall off to nothing.. this is up and down above 20/30mph wich clearly shows the variator is working too quickly.. reducing the weight on the rollers means the engine needs to spin faster to fling them outwards, this equates to more revs...... definatly needs a gear up tho. all those parts and you hit 45mph on a dyno. who built it for you? shouldent blow up pushing it to top speed ether. well, as long as they use a lambda and keep an eye on fueling


    but ye, the tester should be able to help you with this... dont know why youve had the bike dyno'd if you then have to come on a forum and ask people to help you set the bike up. its like paying somebody to do something they didnt do then gwetting complete strangers to finnish the job
     
  16. YogiAerox0393

    YogiAerox0393 New Member

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    i got told too use half a gram heavier rollers and put a very thin spacer between fan pulley and the bellt on the variator, and i did so.. the revs dropped a little, and picked up alot quicker.. he told me to put the spacer in so the revs don't shoot up towards top speed, he only took my bike to 45mph as the revs shot up after 45.

    ive now added a 22mm carb, and are considering a primary gear up kit, do i raise the chance of blowing the crank if i add a gear up?
     
  17. tErr0

    tErr0 Administrator Staff Member

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    So did you actually read what minor wrote or not? Also I am amazed you are running a mix of roller weights.

    A gear-up kit means less revs for more speed so it should actually mean less stress on the crank due to less revs.
     
  18. YogiAerox0393

    YogiAerox0393 New Member

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    yes, if i put lighter rollers in it does exactly the same just revs higher before dropping off the revs and dosn't make as much power! i have also tried using different clutch springs in the past and have found that the ones that came with my speed control kit have been best.. and for fueling i had this checked and it was fine, and also got my new carbs fueling checked.

    i was just wondering as there will be a higher pressure on the crank as it has to turn over bigger gears rather than turning smaller gears at faster higher rpm and was worried that this will add more stress to the crank.
     
  19. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn Administrator Staff Member

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    so, it "looks" good on a dyno graph yet go's like shit on the road...... tell whoever is dynoing your bike that power is fucking irelevent.. look at speeds to mph vs rpm. THIS is how you set rollers. having peak power is fucking meaningless if your bike sits about for 20 mins at 20mph while it clears a dead spot. the fact is your chasing a number, not setting the bike up correctly. youve been advised, your arguing back with absoloutly no idea....



    what IS it wiht aerox owners :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
     

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