HELP ME PLEASE ENGINE NOT RUNNING

Discussion in 'Scooter Tuning' started by scott25, Feb 15, 2010.

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  1. scott25

    scott25 New Member

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    Hi i have brought a engine fitted with a 70cc stage 6 pro sport kit with stage 6 crank and stage 6 clucth too and i have fitter a c16 exhaust to it but i am useing a 17.5mm carb but up jetted to 98 the bike wants to start but it just wot it gos bluh bluh the stops could this be that am not getting enaother fuel should i get a 21mm carb with manual chock and sponge fitter too would this be easyer to set up and the engine runs on a premix too

    please could anyone help me i feel like sending it to the brakers
     
  2. PIE-runner

    PIE-runner New Member

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    change your spark plug (br9es) it shud start wiv a new spark plug but get a 25mm carb instead of 21mm
     
  3. rOcK_oN

    rOcK_oN New Member

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    your spark is fucked dude..thats the bigger possibility
     
  4. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn Administrator Staff Member

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    a bike will run wiht any carb on....

    as for "stick a 25 on there" how comes? why are you advising this? because you read it somwhere?


    as for the problem, new plug, check your pipework (if its running premix there will be an oil pipe that needs blocking up on your stock carb, this will cause an air leek and not let the bike start) check the reeds/inlet/all your gasgets


    fact is, if youve built this engine wihtout a clue how a carb works/how to set one up/if it will even work atall then your telling me 2 things.. 1, you dont really know what your doing and 2, you may have built the engine wrong (yes its 3 moving parts, but its 3 precise moving parts) thus its tight as fuck and doesent want to run...ether way check the simple stuff, reset the idle mix a couple turns out from fully in and wind the idle speed rihgt up... any engine should atleast start wiht this setting.
     
  5. scott25

    scott25 New Member

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    I i brought the engine built allready and i understande wot am doing as i have built car engines etc but theses scooters are not easy as i first thought lol i have the bike running know the new spark plug was no good so i put the old one in it and secound kick it started but i have trouble know with setting the carb up i have done a lot off reading on here and the net but i still can't get the bike to run nice all it doing it 25mph flat out i have check and change the rollers but it still the same i have all the jets 2 carbs but i have noway in the aera i live to get it to someone to tune the only place has a 6 week wait yes 6 weeks so i thought is there somone here that can tune my engine if i posted it to you with all the bits i have and i would pay for the postage to you and back to me no probs and i would pay for your labour then all i have to do is put the engine back in my bike then off i go happy as pig in sh*t
     
  6. scott25

    scott25 New Member

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    i got the bike running as you all know then i had trouble getting tuned so i ask shiny red and he said he was in essex so he would pop in to have a look at it for me.

    Well i met shiny red today and MiNoR cOnFuSiOn to theywas both working on my ped to get it runnig spot on when they change the jets ect had it runn nice then when they went to test ride it. It started to make a knocking niose they took the side case off to find that the seal where fix wrong the RUNNER JOE and that he sold me the engine like it so know i have lost £250 which i am very pissed off with and i want my money back and i would like to thank shiny red and minor confusion for comeing to have a look at the bike
     
  7. Runner-Joe

    Runner-Joe New Member

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    Okay,

    I sold you the engine in working order, i stripped the bike down and sold the parts sepporate to get abit more money to help me with my funds for my Typhoon 125.

    I built the engine spot on with SafeKyle who is also very knowlegable with his scooters and made sure we done it propperly as at the time i wanted it to last me for work and college.

    after selling it to you in good favor ive had you complaining about it ever since, reading what minnor said he does have a point and i did try to help you out over the internet about the jetting etc.

    i have a video the day before i split the bike down of it running fine.

    your now saying there is hammer marks on the engine that ive never known of :confused:hock: and the oil seals are leaking ? (i can guarrentee they were fine when it left my garrage and there was no hammer marks on the garrage)

    you may call me a scammer or what ever but im honnestly not/dont scam people etc etc ask anyone on here they all know i pay up and post them their items ok, to be honnest it shouldent realy be discussed on the scooter forum.

    get some pics and send them over as the whole engines about 5 months old and i realy cant see the seals being terribly fooked :confused:hock:

    i strived to give you my best custom as i always do and have, but this will get sorted tonight.

    shiny and minnor ill have a chat to you now guys, i have pictures of the engine being built somware aswell (by myself and SafeKyle)
     
  8. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn Administrator Staff Member

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    seals are dented inwards and fucked beyond belive... he;'s not done it doing what he's doing, there obviously leaking and have been installed wrong since day 1..... if it was a running engine whats happend since? i was there for an hour and a half and couldent get it revving.. so its not in need of setup... its in need of a rebuild/good look at what's going on inside.. seals at a bear minimum... so no its not a working engine... a video is irelevent.. the bikes not driven anywhere and ive SEEN the engine... safe to say the condition it was in today was the condition it was sold in... seals have been leaking for a lil while. theres dust in wiht the oil... menaing its BEEN ridden since the seals have leaked.. and its not been ridden in this bike...


    fact is.. its not a working engine... sort it out.
     
  9. FirE

    FirE New Member

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    do you lot wana discuss this off the forum?

    the last time something happen like this it didn't end well to say the least and had bans, insults, subliminal digs/messages on this and other forums and other silly needless shit thats not good for the forums image.

    pm each other or exchange phone numbers or what every method of correspondence you choose bar this one
    ;) :good:
     
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