help me asap!!!!

Discussion in 'General Scooter Discussion' started by Sam Pottier, Apr 15, 2014.

  1. Sam Pottier

    Sam Pottier New Member

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    my 50cc all of a sudden with a new sealed battery fitted keeps going flat its only just over a year old and I WOKE UP WENT TO START THE BIKE LIGHTS WORKED FINE THE NEXT DAY, ALL 4 HEADLIGHT BULBS ( 2 CAPLESS AND 2 HALOGEN ) WONT WORK ON NORMAL OR FULL BEAM

    PLEASE HELP !
     
  2. 2many2strokes

    2many2strokes suck squeeze bang blow thats the way i like to go!

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    Check the basics:

    Fuses, see if the connections are tight, no corroded terminals etc. if you a voltmeter check you ouputs from the stator windings
     
  3. hairyjim

    hairyjim To be repaired, restored.i hope.

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    have you got horn and rear/stop lights
     
  4. ginge

    ginge Active Member

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    If you sure its the battery Id speak to manufacture as it maybe under guarantee
     
  5. Stevep

    Stevep Well-Known Member

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    Grab a volt meter, any standard tester will do, start the bike, put the probes on the battery terminals, red to positive, black to negative, check the reading on the meter. With the bike running it should give a reading of 13.6 - 14 volts. A little higher is ok, but any reading above 15 volts means the voltage regulator is shot and is probably killing your bulbs. If the reading is 12.6 volts or less then the charging system is shot and you need to replace the stator and pick-up.
     
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  6. ginge

    ginge Active Member

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    Theres a man who should be commenting ;)
     
  7. Sam Pottier

    Sam Pottier New Member

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    everything else works fine ? :L
     
  8. hairyjim

    hairyjim To be repaired, restored.i hope.

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    could just have a bad earth somewhere..if you got back light and stop lights,ide say head light earth.
     
  9. hairyjim

    hairyjim To be repaired, restored.i hope.

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    Got a gilera ice
    did the halogens ect get wired on a relay
     
  10. hairyjim

    hairyjim To be repaired, restored.i hope.

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    also is your new battery up to feeding extra amperage or the charge circuit up to keeping them happy with a bit for the battery
     
  11. Sam Pottier

    Sam Pottier New Member

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    i got a new upgraded battery like 2 months ago its like 7-9 amp ? over the standard one its a sealed lithium one ? i dunno why all of a sudden they arent working ? :(
     
  12. hairyjim

    hairyjim To be repaired, restored.i hope.

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    you are using a battery that can supply over 100 watts of power over an hour.volts times amps= watts.your charge circuit has to recharge when its going along fully lite and under load.calculate how much wattage All your bulbs are and using total wattage divide it by 12 this gives you your TOTAL power need .if you then add a 20%on top to allow the charger to keep up...coil output ammerage should at least be that much or more.you wanna ride a Christmas tree..you may be needing a bigger charge system
     
  13. hairyjim

    hairyjim To be repaired, restored.i hope.

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    could also have burned the crap out of the hi
    ,,lo switch.are they on a relay or wired to your standard lights via switch
     
  14. Sam Pottier

    Sam Pottier New Member

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    the high low beam is seperate but it is wired to the same lights
     
  15. hairyjim

    hairyjim To be repaired, restored.i hope.

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    if im getting it right,you got extra front lights wired into your front switch but on/off switched seperate.(have back light and stop) ide check for voltage before and after the switch and earths on the h/light bulb.if your running a 35watt bulb and have put another on making 70watt , it could be you've burned the hi.lo switch out.rear light is internally connected in the switch so its on all the time the main on/off is on.what needs to be done is wire the lights on a relay.this allows the voltage to be switched via your original light but have the supply voltage switch through a set of contacts via the battery. With bigger bulbs..more strain on the switch.
     

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