difference between a 180 variator

Discussion in 'Maxiscooter Tuning' started by jj180, Nov 25, 2007.

  1. jj180

    jj180 Active Member

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    at the mo in my 172 ferom a 125 runner im running 172 25ml carb with a 105 jet, polini angled inlet and malossi reeds with a pm59 exhaust, the rest is standard, i have a few parts just havent bothered fitting them yet, just wodnering what the difference between a 125 variator and a 180 is, im thinking of fitting my 180 variator but id like to know the advantages/disadvanages, also could someone pelase tell me what rollers to run if possible please
     
    jj180, Nov 25, 2007
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  2. nrgandy

    nrgandy New Member

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    im sure you need bigger rollers and aparently the 180 is suposed to bit nearly as good as malossi but wait untill someone who knows exactly like minor
     
    nrgandy, Nov 25, 2007
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  3. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn Administrator Staff Member

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    ramp is slightly diff and you can use 125 rolers with a 125 belt or 180 with a 180 belt.. depends what your setup requires. i find responce is better with them tho
     
    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn, Nov 25, 2007
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  4. hotwot

    hotwot New Member

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    So a 180 variator is good but the malossi is better?

    With the malossi vario do you run the 180 or 125 belt?
     
    hotwot, Dec 18, 2007
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  5. italjohn

    italjohn Member

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    Any one try this new variator? Art.-No.: P241608
    SR125-150 - Gilera Runner 125-180 - Italjet Dragster 125-180 Piaggio Hexagon 125-180/SKR 2t

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    The old one you could set up like a 125 og 180, just by adding a spacer. Product Nr.: P241608

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    italjohn, Dec 22, 2007
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  6. hotwot

    hotwot New Member

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    How could using a spacer set up the variator for a 125 or 180?
     
    hotwot, Dec 23, 2007
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  7. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn Administrator Staff Member

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    thinner or thicker for whatever belt/rollers.. playing with the spacer has great results if you know what your doing
     
    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn, Dec 23, 2007
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  8. italjohn

    italjohn Member

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    Here is some pictures of this washer.

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    italjohn, Jan 5, 2008
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  9. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn Administrator Staff Member

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    ;) can run both or none depending on the belt and rollers used. im not letting off any secrets here but the thickness of shims on the back of the variator can have incredible effect.. the front spacing is simply to make sure the belt sits straight to the front pulley of the clutch.. belt MUST run completly straight to not wear out quick, kill power and not kill your crank.
     
    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn, Jan 5, 2008
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  10. Biggie

    Biggie New Member

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    Got these two variators...im guessing one is 180(left) and one is 125(right) as i saw a variator come straight off a 180 and it had the plate on the back..

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    Biggie, Apr 2, 2008
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  11. monty9120

    monty9120 Active Member

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    the one on the left with the screws is a 125 one. the one without is a 180 one on the right
     
    monty9120, Apr 3, 2008
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  12. Biggie

    Biggie New Member

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    Are you sure?
    I thought it was other way round, cos all my 125's have had the vario's without the back plate??
     
    Biggie, Apr 3, 2008
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  13. Jefr0-180

    Jefr0-180 Active Member

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    My previous 2 180s had the variator without the screws and they were 100% original before I took them into my hands ;)
     
    Jefr0-180, Apr 3, 2008
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