bogging

Discussion in 'General Scooter Discussion' started by Speedy 172, Oct 13, 2007.

  1. Speedy 172

    Speedy 172 Active Member

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    well my bikes being a shed still
    ive upjetted to a 90
    and still my bike bogs
    ive ordered some 5g rollers to try and sort my top end out
    but how will you no if your clutch is worn ?
    and my clutch springs have never been changed so is it worth buying some red springs ?
     
  2. capri dave

    capri dave Active Member

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    clutch would slip if worn...or you can get vibration if the bell is out of true (caused by over heating)

    yes it would be worth buying a pack of clutch springs...the ones that have 3 or 4 different sets in...to experiment ;)

    when your scoot bogs...does it do it on initial throttle opening and then clear as the revs rise or does it try to stall as the revs rise??
     
  3. Speedy 172

    Speedy 172 Active Member

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    dont know how to descride it dave
    you could be goin flat out
    then let the throttle off to say slow down
    then as you try to pick up the revs by opening the throttle it bogs right down
    its kinda dangerous on highways
    so need sorted asap :(:(
     
  4. capri dave

    capri dave Active Member

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    ok so its bogging on pick up and clearing by the sounds of it then!!

    could be: rollers too heavy..idle mixture set too lean..

    what weight rollers you got in at the moment??

    And i always get confused when talking to you are we talking speedy 70 here??
     
  5. Speedy 172

    Speedy 172 Active Member

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    viva 70
    same engine

    set up
    malossi 70 kit
    100cc manifold
    dellorto 17.5mm carb *and airbox*
    endy race pipe
    7.5 gram rollers
    90 jet *72 standard*

    hope it helps
     
  6. capri dave

    capri dave Active Member

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    i reckon you might have a bit too much main jet for that set up if your useing an air box...my calculations suggest 83-85 main!!

    also going from 7.5 grams to 5 grams seems too big a drop...I reckon 6.5 gram would be more in the ball park...from memory speedys always use a heavier roller than a piggy engine ;)
     
  7. Speedy 172

    Speedy 172 Active Member

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    -_-
    i was using an 83 jet before
    and il get some rollers on the go
    anything else your mind can think of dave ?
     
  8. capri dave

    capri dave Active Member

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    try the lighter rollers 1st....if their too heavy itll be impossible to get the jetting perfect.

    you could do with buying a few sets to mix and match..

    also try turning the mixture screw in a bit (small screw) make a note of how many part turns in case you need to return it to the original setting...

    I start by screwing the screw all the way in and counting how many half turns it takes to fully in....then screw it back out by the exact same half turns and then youve got a reference point to return to if adjusting dosent improve things ;)
     
  9. Speedy 172

    Speedy 172 Active Member

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    okay dave il give that a go 2moro
    so how will i no if the mixture screw is set properly
    is there a way of checking
     
  10. capri dave

    capri dave Active Member

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    engine will start easier...trickle along on 1/4 throttle cleanly without stuttering or fouling the plug up...engine will idle nicely (tick over)!!

    you can buy a gunsons colour tune...ive never used 1 my self...i tend to go by feel...carry a little screw driver and try to gradually zero in on the sweet spot...might take a few attempts to get it spot on ;)
     
  11. Speedy 172

    Speedy 172 Active Member

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    lol dave
    i love you
     

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