Best way to repair these?

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  1. KidBilly

    KidBilly Active Member

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    Hey guys,

    Just looking what the best way to repair these would be, first attempt at fairing repairing.

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  2. KidBilly

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    I do plan to, although I can't afford it right now so was just looking to fix and give them a quick spray so it doesn't look as bad while I wait to buy new ones.
     
  3. Merlin

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    PVC pipe cement will join the cracks together and if done right, the joint will be as strong as the original plastic. Apply it to both sides of the crack and secure the parts together in the correct position with tape. It should go off overnight and be a strong joint.

    The edges can be repaired with a car body filler such as Plastic Padding - Type Elastic, the flexible one. Mix it at the ratio of one golf ball of resin paste to a pea sixed blob of hardener and it will take about 15 to 20 minutes to cure, with about 5 to 7 minutes of working time before it starts to 'set' and you can't spread it any more. Apply it in thin layers and build it up gradually as this will be stronger than one thick layer. Rough out the shape with coarse 250 grit sand paper, becoming gradually finer as you get close to the final shape. You need about 600 grit to get it smooth enough to match the original plastic and take primer paint.

    Take your time and the results will show that. These jobs are 90% preparation.
     
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    Thank you Merlin that is a great help, it will be much cheaper than £100+ on new fairings.
     
  5. Merlin

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    I would also use a Bulldog clip at the end of that crack to hold the ends together - it will be stronger than tape as it's a long crack. You can also paint some PVC cement on the inside of the panel to make it stronger around the crack, it won't get seen anyway.
     
  6. KidBilly

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    Ah! that's great I was trying to think of some way to clip it into place, the crack does line up and kinda pop into place, but it needs holding to stay there. Will grab the things needed tomorrow or the weekend hopefully, need to order variator and clutch holding tools firstly though, been avoiding it due to them been like £20 each in my local ped shop and can't seem to find them anywhere else.
     
  7. Merlin

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    Don't worry too much if the cement leaks out of the crack on the outside a little; you actually want that to happen to prove that the joint is fully wetted with it and is joined together properly.

    How about some pictures of before and after the repair, before you paint it?
     
  8. KidBilly

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    I will take pictures of the steps once I've got everything to repair them, hopefully it isn't too hard :)
     
  9. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

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    Sometimes, the best tool in the toolbox is patience. ;)
     
  10. KidBilly

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    Just looking now, do you know the difference between these two?

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Piaggio-N...76?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item43b7243084

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIAGGIO-Z...29?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item43c3e40491

    Obviously one is cheaper than the other.

    Also these two?

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Piaggio-Z...49?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2334dc635d

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Piaggio-F...66?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item43b72437e6

    Will the 50 one fit? or do I just pay extra on everything because its a 125, lol.
     
  11. KidBilly

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    Thanks mate, does that go for both? I just assumed the clutch tool would be the same for them both.
     
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  15. Merlin

    Merlin Old School Biker

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    WARNING!! That Myscooterparts link in Post #15 has a Javascript iFrame virus infection in it!! DO NOT CLICK IT!!
     
  16. KidBilly

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    Yeah I understand I may try give them a call and see if they have anything the same for the 125, might be worth it
     
  18. Merlin

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    Yeah, that's fine. Other bands include Terrain, Marley and Polypipe.

    I'm a bit of a plastic surgeon on the side. If you think glueing plastic together by solvent welding is impressive, check out this Wiki I wrote back in early 2008. I'm a former industrial chemist and I worked out what caused the yellowing, with the help of some like-minded friends. Yes, I'm that Merlin. :)

    http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com - and they said that yellowed plastic couldn't be restored, they said it was impossible; yeah right, they really meant that the chemistry of the ABS plastic hadn't been figured out.
     
  19. technodimwit

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    Merlin,

    i am impressed

    well done.:cool:
     
  20. technodimwit

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    As for the panel repair,.....

    I usually use fine metal mesh and fibre glass on the inside of the panel...

    mark
     

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