Aerox build up

Discussion in 'Scooter Projects' started by waxhead, Aug 18, 2008.

  1. bait

    bait Active Member

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    may be stupid question but whats "hot tanking" and why did you do it
    should be intresting to see what you use for a reedblock and im also looking forward to seeing what your reshaping does as atm im slightly skeptical...dont the bearings and crank need the oil in the oil petrol mix for lubrication which you have now directed away from it and also would this not change the timeing of things as i would of thought now the petrol will get to the head alot quicker or as long as the crank is still spinning at the same time will it not make a difference? and if it doesnt change this then what will the gains be?
     
  2. waxhead

    waxhead Member

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    Ok hot tanking is a process that removes all oil and dirt from the parts

    Watch for the updates and you will see what I am doing for a reed block
    But its a custom manifold

    The oil for the bearings goes through the bearings before it goes up the hole
    So it really doesn't matter where they are , except that if you lay them flat the scooter will tend to smoke for a few secs on start up
    Having them vertical like mineralli do is an emission thing and infact goes against the flow and thus are worse for crank wear than changing them like i have

    Changing the timing ??
    Im not sure how to answer you there with out sounding condescending

    The gains are that the air has a more direct path to the transfers and it helps reduces windage from the crankshaft disrupting the flow
     
  3. alexsr70

    alexsr70 New Member

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    yes

    Yes

    YES!

    :D

    this is getting good wax!
    wanted to do the same work on my engine, but tbh was alot of work i wasnt ready to do
     
  4. waxhead

    waxhead Member

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    Ok well this is the idea for the flow
    I was just putting it together after spaces had been made as a dummy assemble to see where I needed to grind
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    As you can see here I am starting to shape the diverter on the shallow case
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    Ok more devcon going in to help the deep case diverter shape
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    One 28mm kehin d slide carb for the engine
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    Tomorrow the case will be close to finished and then its just the smoothing out and sandblasting , cleaning
    Dummy assemble next week for the measure up and also the finial assemble
     
  5. waxhead

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  6. safekyle

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    Sicck. you sure it clears the crank aswell?
    You said you filled in the hole for the bearing lube, where is that now ?
     
  7. waxhead

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    Yeah it will clear the crank
    If you look up into the trasnfer port area you can see where i have redrilled them to allow the bearings to breath the way they want
     
  8. bait

    bait Active Member

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    all my previous questions have been answered :good: some nice work there get it built back up and test it out let us no how much gains you get from this
     
  9. waxhead

    waxhead Member

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    Thanks
    Still alot of work to do on the cases yet, at the moment they are still very rough
    When its all finished it will look alot better
     
  10. waxhead

    waxhead Member

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    Here is the intake shaping pretty much finished

    Im using a 4.5 degree angled reed spacer to aim the reed down the port as best as i can

    Just have to work on the surface finish now and a bit more blending

    Hours go into getting this stuff right to make sure the flow is as best as you can get

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    He is a picture of some stock Honda rs125 cases

    Arguably the most powerful 125 two stroke engine out there

    you can see the similarities between this case and my redesigned scooter case

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  11. waxhead

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    Ok short block is together

    Sorry but you dont get to see the cases in there final state I have to keep some secrets

    But think about flow diverters and you will have a clue

    Tomorrow I will set the squish clearance and complete the long block

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  12. adz452

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    looking good :cool:
     
  13. PrettyDodgyDave

    PrettyDodgyDave Member

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    your a pool of knowledge :lol:

    and my question is why am i seeing alot of square exhaust ports now :confused:cratch: what do they benefit??
     
  14. waxhead

    waxhead Member

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    Thank you and the exhaust ports scavenge better than a round one so they say
    Im not actually sure on that its just what they claim
     
  15. waxhead

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    Today finished setting the squish clearance, ended up having to run a different spacer as it was enough before but this one works well
    Lucky i have a good supply of alloy to make these out of.
    Blended in the exhaust port to the yasuni pipe so good to go there.
    Tomorrow I will make a plate for the intake so i can pressure test the engine

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  16. bait

    bait Active Member

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    is ur engine clamped in a vice?
     
  17. waxhead

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  18. bait

    bait Active Member

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    was gna say looks like its floating does that not damage cases and looks good you gona get it on the dyno?
     
  19. waxhead

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    No its fine
    Its being held in a non critical area
    Yes i hope to dyno it , hard to get a dyno small enough over here in australia
     
  20. bait

    bait Active Member

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    i look forward 2 seeing it
     

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