a word of warning

Discussion in 'General Scooter Discussion' started by MiNoR cOnFuSiOn, Jan 18, 2007.

  1. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn Administrator Staff Member

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    just to let you all know, pm have been playing around with there pipes some more. the 55 now uses the same stub as the 59, they also have a sectional peice at the front as opposed to the usual weak bend on the downpipe section. this would be a stronger desighn but the welds REWALLY dont look up to the job, also the material is even thinner (why would you do that) the welds ARE getting worse tho and the inner past the stub creates a HORIBLE step inside the pipe. these pipes REALLY ARE NOT WORTH THE PRICE PM ASK and would STRONGLY sudgest to anyone looking at a pipe to forget pm completly. custom pipes can be made cheaper and the jolly moto offers similar power gains to both the 55 and 59. the 59 is of usual poor quality and dont last more than a week on anything other than a 125. pm really need to pull there finger out and stop winging about competition as there OBVIOUSLY making money from INFERIOR products. that or start making good quality exhausts like they advertise



    the usual argument stuill stands and they do give good power gains but its REALLY not worth the hassel that comes with them. also race use is alot harder than road use so that argument doesent stand with me. statuatory rights are being infrindged on a daily basis and they have more than enuff money to win any court case.



    bottom line STOP GIVING PM MONEY as there making 250 quid off every pipe and are more than happy to tell people to go away when there products fail. i do feel trading standards should get involved at this point as i only know of 3 pipes running unmodded with no breaks. thats a poor track record



    rant over for now.. but definatly to be continued
     
  2. gazell

    gazell Active Member

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    well thats me fucked then cos ive got a pm59 sat on my bike right now lmao
     
  3. bEN

    bEN Active Member

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    have a welder in your boot.
     
  4. monty9120

    monty9120 Active Member

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    sell it on ebay and buy a scorp.. job done.



    the new scorps look wicked anyway :cool:
     
  5. gazell

    gazell Active Member

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    lmao could do...fuck it when it snaps it snaps

    if it becomes to unreliable i'll get a scorp...
     
  6. wobbly_trials

    wobbly_trials Active Member

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    scorp won't fit an SR :( unless i mod it :nerd: (sr not pipe)
     
  7. bEN

    bEN Active Member

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    Gaz get a scorp, otherwise i think you'll be worrying about it snapping all the time, get a scorp at least you'll have a nice looking pipe, good build quality that arn't known for snapping, rusting etc and still give a small power gain.
     
  8. skatergod

    skatergod New Member

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    YEH GAZ.... to be honest i dont think the pm has done your bike justice.... but get it set up on the dyno and fuck it... stick to the pm untill it snaps.... its 5 mins job to reweld... my grandad owns a garage and is a well good welder.... so fuck it dont worrie... just drive normaly yeh?
     
  9. gazell

    gazell Active Member

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    cheers kid



    it has done alot to my bike mid end..wise..once its set up properly i'll be gettin the most out of the pipe,...im always scouting ebay for a cheap scorp as a spare...i missed out on one before xmas for 50 quid :( lol
     

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