A bit lost now

Discussion in 'Bike Chat' started by 2many2strokes, Mar 23, 2012.

  1. 2many2strokes

    2many2strokes suck squeeze bang blow thats the way i like to go!

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    Hi

    Ive got a old 2stroke kh125 that will not run, its been sitting for a while been restored. the frames all complete but the engine just wont go :(
    Has Fresh Fuel and oil (pump works)
    Clean Carb no air leaks
    NEW ignition timed with strong spark
    Good compression
    But still no go!!

    Any advice would be great just want to get it out the shed at last!!
    thanks
     
  2. Jonnymarrw00t

    Jonnymarrw00t Moderator Staff Member

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    do you have a compression tester ? and also a spark tester ? Because even if the spark looks good out of the bike. It can be really weak under compression.
     
  3. 2many2strokes

    2many2strokes suck squeeze bang blow thats the way i like to go!

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    Yes tested the ignition with spark plug tester and read 118psi on compression o_O
     
  4. Jonnymarrw00t

    Jonnymarrw00t Moderator Staff Member

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    :confused: is fuel getting into the engine ?
     
  5. 2many2strokes

    2many2strokes suck squeeze bang blow thats the way i like to go!

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    wet plug and i did try putting a spoon full of premix down the plug hole just in case. I did have the engine running a few times only for a few seconds on full throttle but it wouldnt rev and just cut out.
     
  6. Jonnymarrw00t

    Jonnymarrw00t Moderator Staff Member

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    sounds like idle to me then
     
  7. 2many2strokes

    2many2strokes suck squeeze bang blow thats the way i like to go!

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    ive played with that as well got my mate to have a muck about with it, hes pretty good at carbs spend most his time fiddling with them on the mexico. i think i might give up on it and get a new lump for it
     
  8. Jonnymarrw00t

    Jonnymarrw00t Moderator Staff Member

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    It can only be fuel/ignition/compression :/ Does your fuel tap work properly ?
     
  9. 2many2strokes

    2many2strokes suck squeeze bang blow thats the way i like to go!

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    I checked there was fuel coming from the tank to the carb, there is. checked the float valve was working fine, it was all jets are clear all seals on the carb are good. this has really stumped me :(
     
  10. Jonnymarrw00t

    Jonnymarrw00t Moderator Staff Member

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    Knowing your luck it's something really stupid :/ Are the reeds leaking ?
     
  11. 2many2strokes

    2many2strokes suck squeeze bang blow thats the way i like to go!

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    it doesnt have reeds it has a rotating valve
     
  12. Jonnymarrw00t

    Jonnymarrw00t Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't know then I'm afraid :/
     
  13. 2many2strokes

    2many2strokes suck squeeze bang blow thats the way i like to go!

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    ok thanks anyway
     
  14. Stig

    Stig Well-Known Member

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    When my EXUP has been stood its a bitch to get started. It'll fire for a second or two and then stop and as you say its wont rev.

    Try dumping it down hill, it clears things out....

    Spose the KH is kick start only????? (been a long time since I saw one) but if its electric, stick a jump pack on the battery. The engine needs a good 14.4V to get started ideally

    always works for me.........

    Have you tried eazi-start down the inlets?
     
  15. FiddyRox

    FiddyRox Well-Known Member

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    Could be ignition timing?
     
  16. Stig

    Stig Well-Known Member

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    if the ignition was OK before being laid up then it SHOULD be OK now. By the age of the bike it'll prob be points as opposed to electronic.
    My mates RD250 (1979 V reg) was points and they slipped whilst he was in a shop. He came out fired it up, dropped it in first and reved it to pull away and the bike went backwards. If i'd not seen it for myself I wouldnt have believed it

    still recon its clogged up with stale fuel IMHO

    I'll let you know tomorrow if mines the same as I've just got it out its winter storage bag. Few bits to swap and sort first tho'
     
  17. m1ck_t

    m1ck_t Moderator Staff Member

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    alot of shit
    Choke working ok ?
     
  18. 2many2strokes

    2many2strokes suck squeeze bang blow thats the way i like to go!

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    ive changed it from points and condenser to a electronic ignition. company in germany makes conversion kits for old bikes. never liked points always fucking up. Yes the choke is working as well. It did run for a little while on a squirt of easy start but it hasnt run since.:mad: Think i might need to just strip it down completly. spoke to a guy from work who use to have one that the rotary valve plates wear out creating a air leak. Ive got thescoot so its not the end of the world if it takes a bit longer.
     
  19. creamsodauk

    creamsodauk Ped Ped!!

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    sounds like an air leak to me. running only on full throttle would suggest it needed alot of fuel to even out the massive air leak to get it just to run
     
  20. 2many2strokes

    2many2strokes suck squeeze bang blow thats the way i like to go!

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    I Have thought that as well, just got a whole new gasket set for the bike will have to work day and night now to get it running. My ped last night decided to shake itself to pieces and catch fire while riding LOL
     

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