2006 runner vx125 project

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  1. skipper-pilot

    skipper-pilot New Member

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    got myself another runner tonight, didnt plan it but it was cheap (cant say how cheap yet shhhh) but it was probably alot cheaper than you think.

    its a new shape 06 plate, had a front end smash and slightly bent the forks, and broke all the front panels. fairly easy repair on the face of it. done hpi etc all clear.

    pics tomorrow :beee:
     
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  2. Sh0x

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    Front panels gonna be hard to come by though man?
    Local to you huh.. I think I saw this for sale :p
     
    Sh0x, Dec 30, 2009
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  3. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn Administrator Staff Member

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    so you bought a ped thats been in an accident as it was cheap? if its bent the forks chances are the frames bent and its not worth saving (hey, forks are stronger than a frame) never buy a crashed bike, no matter how cheap. hpi clear just means it wasent reported (if it was then the bike would now be written off) so not only is it a crash damaged bike, the fact its hpi clear means its also possible it was used in an incident where the driver left the scene. no wonder it was cheap.
     
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  4. Sh0x

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    Cant really say untill youve seen and inspected the bike tbh. He knows what hes doing and will be able to spot if frames bent once he gets stuck in.

    Seen plenty of bikes with bent forks, had one or two myself , changed forks and totally fine as Im sure plenty of others have done too.

    Agree on the HPI thing
     
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  5. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn Administrator Staff Member

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    all im saying is a hpi check means fuck all (it just means the accidnet wasent reported as even a no problem accident still show's up) so for that id walk away.

    ive never seen a bent saet of forks leaving a straight frame.. NEVER. forks are SO much stronger than a scoot frame, it always moves somwhere (just finding where it's moved) no chance your bending the forks wihtout bending the frame somwhere. the frame is just TOO weak to withstand it.
     
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  6. skipper-pilot

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    stripped the front end today and the frame is very slightly bent beneath the headstock, enough for the front wheel to touch the petrol tank and make it un-rideable. looks as if the yokes are slightly twisted but the legs are straight as far as i can see.

    still got it at a bargain price ;) £225

    i agree on the hpi thing but it definatley wasnt ridden away from anywhere after that accident.

    going to get in touch with some frame straightening companies and get some estimates
     
    skipper-pilot, Dec 30, 2009
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  7. skipper-pilot

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    oh yeah and pics as promised, as she stands now.....bars aint aligned properly btw........

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  8. m1ck_t

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    alot of shit
    26k on a 06
    :confused:hock:
     
    m1ck_t, Dec 30, 2009
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  9. skipper-pilot

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    High miles but it runs perfect :mrgreen:
     
    skipper-pilot, Dec 31, 2009
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  10. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn Administrator Staff Member

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    its scrap m8... need a new frame, aint gonna straighten it out properly (even if a specialist does it) you bend somthing, then bend it back, it wont be as strong.

    basicly you wanna ask WHY this has not been reported to ther einsurance/contact the police concerning a vehicle youve just bought

    its pritty simple, dont buy a crashed bike??!?!? if you do chances are legally it is evidence. if the hpi is clear as you said its DEFFO been in an accident that wasent reported.. yes its fine to not notify your insurance and pay cash at the scene of an accident (or ana rranged date afterwards) but BOTH vehicles should undergo an engineers report. this would fail/be deemed a NON repairable write off.. so basicly you just paid 225 for a written off bike.. if you do somhow get it mot'd again and the frame straightend out theres still the fact the bike was crashed in an accident and not reported

    contact the police.. ask them, chances are there looking for the bike (somone sold it quick/cheap as they obviously new this)

    again, never buy a crashed bike.. its a foolish thing to do.
     
    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn, Dec 31, 2009
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  11. skipper-pilot

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    already looked about for a new frame but they seem to be impossible to get (at the moment anyway) and i cant ever recall seeing one for sale other than on gilera spares which is over £500 so this one will have to be repaired.

    looking at where its bent there seems to be enough space to fabricate some sort of headstock strengthening supports without having to modify anything, we shall see what happens after i get it straightened, il have a word with the company who do it and ask their opinion on supports and if theyre needed.

    probably going to send it to motoliner, same company that sorted Jefros vx frame and that was alot worse than this one tbh.

    i hear what your saying about the not recorded situation, and i will be getting in touch with the DVLA and the police to make sure theres nothing untoward going on, the person who i bought it off had one of those courtesy bikes outside and pointed out thats what the insurance company had given them for the time being. seems v.unlikely IMO its probably the shitty hpi check company hasnt had their info updated over xmas and it is infact on a CAT C, wouldnt surprise me, not that im really that bothered as its not going to be 'bodged' straight and will pass the MOT and any other checks when time comes.

    worst case scenario, even if it comes to it and it was a CAT B the parts left on the bike would be enough to get my money back, hence i only payed 225 :) engine, chipped key set, rear pans, rear bits and bobs, speedo unit wheels etc etc

    :good:
     
    skipper-pilot, Dec 31, 2009
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  12. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn Administrator Staff Member

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    ang on, he has a courtesey bike.... for what, untill his insurance decide wether to write the bike off you just bought...


    m8, go get your dogh back.. this aint gonna get registerd. it will end up belonging to an insurance company so you will end up with fuck all. pending claims ONLY have access to a cover bike. so theres an insurance claim pending on thaqt bike.. walk away
     
    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn, Jan 1, 2010
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  13. Sh0x

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    If you dont wanna build it up, you could break it (since theres not much of it) and make a few bob ontop. First dibs on the 125 monster if you do ;)
     
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  15. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

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    ye, it was also registerd in his mane first and not still involved in a pending insurance claim/police investigation....
     
    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn, Jan 1, 2010
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  16. skipper-pilot

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    they'd be pretty silly to sell it while theres an investigation on it though because i have a receipt from the seller signed and dated, and signed by me and they kept a copy which was also signed by me, the receipt detailed that the bike is sold as a CAT C sold as seen, so if anything came back the finger is pointed at the seller selling a bike when they wernt supposed to, how was i supposed to know what was going on when the bike is HPI clear, i had no reason to be suspicious.

    i know one thing for sure im not going to do anything to it until i get to the bottom of this.
     
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  17. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

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    you said yourself he had a hire bike? WHY does he have a hire bike if an insurance claim is no longer pending? surely the decision has ben made, he's been paid and can now sell the bike.. IF the insurance knew about it. i recon the guy is chattign arse, has crashed a bike and decided to sell it cheap/blame the new owner.. anyone can write out a new recipt and trace a signature.. you having a recipt from a couple days after the accident is NOT gonna hold up in court.. as far as the court is concerned the person in POSSESION ov the vehicle is responcible for any accidents...

    im not being an arse.. im just making sure your aware of what the situation COULD be, for all you know it was a 5 year old kid that bent the forks... you wanna go away for vehicular manslaughter just for buying a scoot cheap? (extreem, but do you know different?)

    did YOU do the hpi check? have you contacted the police to just let them know youve bought a bike that could have been involved in a recent accident and your wondering if there is a report from the accident?

    yes its alot of fucking about covering your ass for just buying a bike, so dont buy crashed bikes LOL its a minefield of scam's. plus, the easiest way to get out of a hit and run is to sell the vehicle and denie all knowledge. afterall, you sent the v5 off on this date.. wether it came back or not is unknown to you?!?! (sneeky, but it happens ALOT and many people have paid compensation for accidents they never took part in just because they couldent prove themselves innocent)

    england is guilty untill proven innocent.. not like america (hencew your remanded and "serve time" for big charges from the munite your arrested to the munite you go to court) be carefull and cover your ass!
     
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  18. MiNoR cOnFuSiOn

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    well, its been in an accident, OBVIOUSLY, and this DIDNT come up on the hpi... so nobody knows about the accident, id immediatly walk away, maybe contact the police.
     
    MiNoR cOnFuSiOn, Jan 1, 2010
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  19. skipper-pilot

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    i dont see it as you being an arse dont worry, i am finding it helpful.

    thats a good point, yes i did do the HPI myself as i dont trust the HPI clear bollocks anyone could write. il be getting on the phone to them tomorrow as well as the dvla.
     
    skipper-pilot, Jan 1, 2010
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    as i said in a previous post, it may well be on a CAT C but due to it being xmas and new year etc it might not be on the register yet therefore the HPI hasnt picked up on it.
     
    skipper-pilot, Jan 1, 2010
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